Sun, 24 May 2026 23:50:07 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90044#Comment_90044 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90044#Comment_90044 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:08:27 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90048#Comment_90048 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90048#Comment_90048 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:17:51 +0100 JTGreen
http://www.imeasure.org.uk

It is very user friendly, even if it doesn't give you absolution for your microgen.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90049#Comment_90049 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90049#Comment_90049 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:49:34 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90050#Comment_90050 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90050#Comment_90050 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:07:42 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90051#Comment_90051 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90051#Comment_90051 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:10:01 +0100 SteamyTea

Bit on negative numbers on the radio at the moment]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90055#Comment_90055 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90055#Comment_90055 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:28:21 +0100 evan https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90056#Comment_90056 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90056#Comment_90056 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:39:32 +0100 JTGreen
I get that microgenerators want the recognition for their investment/effort - but you won't get it from imeasure, because that's not really what it's there for. GBF is good for applause though.

And recalling recent controversial discussion of the 800m2 renewable-powered greenhouse, I do see why they don't want to go down that route (i.e. use as much as you like, as long as you have your own private supply). DamonHD's point in that thread, which was that reducing demand was still important, because it meant that more of the energy surplus could be exported to the grid, holds true here. If you allow people to record themselves as net negative energy users it reduces the incentive to reduce energy demand - or gives people the impression that the most important thing to do is get into microgeneration. Which would probably be the wrong message.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90058#Comment_90058 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90058#Comment_90058 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:45:49 +0100 DamonHD
Makes me feel slightly uncomfortable as I am of course recording my import meter readings at imeasure which ignores in-house consumption direct from the PV. And would my karma be different if I happened to install a battery system and with NO change in generation or consumption would have zero imports for 9 months of the year?

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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90059#Comment_90059 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90059#Comment_90059 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:49:40 +0100 SteamyTea ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90060#Comment_90060 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90060#Comment_90060 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:56:55 +0100 JTGreen https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90061#Comment_90061 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90061#Comment_90061 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:01:24 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90063#Comment_90063 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90063#Comment_90063 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:30 +0100 DamonHD
I suppose all imeasure can simply be seen as the CO2 cost of imported energy, per person.

But yes, the model they are using probably doesn't quite work for us. Maybe that's why we get an artificially good score.

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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90064#Comment_90064 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90064#Comment_90064 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:36 +0100 bot de paille My energy consuption goes through the roof in the winter but Im still more sustainable than anyone burning wood or gas, its great.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90065#Comment_90065 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90065#Comment_90065 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:11:50 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90066#Comment_90066 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90066#Comment_90066 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:14:13 +0100 JTGreen
Slight downside is that all the changes will come at once (or over a period of 4-5 months) while I have builders on site, so I won't be able to see clearly the effect of insulation separate from solar (being tempted towards PV over thermal through DamonHD's constant campaigning!).]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90067#Comment_90067 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90067#Comment_90067 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:14:52 +0100 JTGreen https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90069#Comment_90069 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90069#Comment_90069 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:25:40 +0100 DamonHD
I'm off to an Oxford college tomorrow to try to persuade them... B^> B^>

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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90071#Comment_90071 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90071#Comment_90071 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:30:35 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: JTGreenpeak uranium, and externalised costs of "radioactivity capture".
This peak business worries me as the latest figures for artic oil kind of show, 1/4 of the worlds resources, but not sure if that is a 1/4 what is left or a quarter of everything we have ever had. Thorium (I think) is a replacement. I was under the impression that the nuclear industry was paying for clean up, well after the most recent bail out, only way they get a contract to run an installation.
If we split the UK up into regions can I claim that most of my electrical energy comes from Gas and Nuclear?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90079#Comment_90079 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90079#Comment_90079 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:40:24 +0100 bot de paille
How much wood can the UK grow? Not enough to heat everyones houses and still grow enough food.
Peak wood exists also. How much fossil fuel energy is required to maintain, harvest and transport all that wood/bio fuel?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90080#Comment_90080 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90080#Comment_90080 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:59:07 +0100 bot de paille https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90082#Comment_90082 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90082#Comment_90082 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:30:50 +0100 jamesingram https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90084#Comment_90084 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90084#Comment_90084 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:36:04 +0100 evan https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90085#Comment_90085 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90085#Comment_90085 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:57:14 +0100 brig001 http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/utilities/article6626811.ece

Admittedly that was during a very hot summer, and hopefully they have that sorted now.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90089#Comment_90089 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90089#Comment_90089 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:55:48 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90093#Comment_90093 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90093#Comment_90093 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:39:02 +0100 DamonHD
That will have been making up for the inability for most of France's generation stock to load-follow.

And indeed France relies heavily on its interconnects for load following and for picking up the slack if any of the nukes are down due to industrial action or hot weather, etc, etc, as I understand things.

I'm not against nukes, but it's barely more dispatchable than wind and solar: too much is as bad as too little.

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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90146#Comment_90146 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90146#Comment_90146 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:10:26 +0100 jamesingram http://www.noneedfornuclear.org.uk/

Back on topic
Is seems fair to say all current forms of energy generation have some negative effect.
So to strive to use this energy efficiently is clearly beneficial .

No matter your supply type , reduction in demand will benefit all.
So I think we can all use imeasure to help with this goal .

Looking at the details posted by people, most seem to have done all the simple stuff
and to reduce consumption much further would require more ambitious renovations,
changes in life style or like Damon investing in mircogen.

(JTgreen hope your planning to top that loft insulation up before xmas ),]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90216#Comment_90216 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90216#Comment_90216 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:14:16 +0100 JTGreen https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90246#Comment_90246 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90246#Comment_90246 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:55:45 +0100 brig001 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=5873 Gives a bit of incentive to get to those hard to reach places.
Good luck with it.
Brian.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90479#Comment_90479 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90479#Comment_90479 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:37:48 +0100 GBP-Keith https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90481#Comment_90481 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6317&Focus=90481#Comment_90481 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:57:59 +0100 JTGreen