Thu, 25 Jun 2026 05:46:22 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100745#Comment_100745 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100745#Comment_100745 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:28:45 +0000 fclauson I have been playing around with http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com/

Its an open source Building Management/Automaiton system - it would be good to get a community going to develop this into a useful green building monitoing system

Specifically I am looking at using 1-wire for monitoring/controlling things

Francis]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100749#Comment_100749 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100749#Comment_100749 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:21:30 +0000 nigelm
The software would appear to provide a reasonable graphics front end but have you had any thoughts on how you would interface to the sensors inputs and what sort of sensors you would use.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100763#Comment_100763 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100763#Comment_100763 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:28:03 +0000 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100837#Comment_100837 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100837#Comment_100837 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:41:32 +0000 fclauson
lets us know how you get on - I already have linked up about 8 temprature sensors - and am looking to link up some switches soon

Francis]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100847#Comment_100847 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100847#Comment_100847 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:12:57 +0000 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100855#Comment_100855 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100855#Comment_100855 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:44:16 +0000 wookey
For the low-level part temploggerd and OWFS are very good, and flukso provides remote visualisation.

I have spend some time pondering the harder-than-it-looks problem of reliably monitoring and controlling diverse stuff (mostly over 1-wire but in principle the interface layer doesn't matter). Keeping the monitoring/control box simple, with the high-level interface/data-mining stuff elsewhere is a good plan, but you do need a local GUI of some sort, which for many people may preferably be on their phone. Data syncronisation is important and tricky - you have to allow for long periods of operation with no net access. The flukso software has a good implementation for monitoring that deals with this. I am currently looking at whether it actualy makes sense to couchDB for data as it's killer feature is automatic remote sync. I am currently using RRDtools for data storage and Munin for logging and visualisation, OWFS for 1-wire interfacing and some evil shell for control. These are good tools but by no means optimally arranged. People disagree about whether it's important to keep _all_ data or only reduced data after 1 week/month/year. I think the answer is that yes you shoud keep it if you have remote storage or removable storage (SD cards), but if not then you you need the fixed database size of RRDtools for long-term operation.

The java-on-arm situation has improved dramatically since I last tried a couple of years back, and if you're using x86 then things are easier.

I have started a repository to debian/ubuntu-ise these HA projects which currently aren't in the distros. OWFS is already there (for x86 and amd64, Ubuntu marverick and Debian Squeeze). More will follow: http://wookware.org/software/repo/
I just spent an hours or so trying to get Mango to build on Debian to see what current state is. I failed so far, but does look do-able eventually.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100860#Comment_100860 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100860#Comment_100860 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:25:20 +0000 SteamyTea As you know I use Windows (though I built a Puppy box from my old desktop) and I still can't get it to load.

Is anyone using Mango on a Vista machine (got an old XP one if that is the problem) who can tell me where I went wrong.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100886#Comment_100886 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=100886#Comment_100886 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:24:32 +0000 djh Posted By: SteamyTeaAs you know I use Windows
Oh well, we all have our crosses to bear ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=101100#Comment_101100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=6891&Focus=101100#Comment_101100 Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:18:45 +0000 fclauson