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Commercial build: New Train station

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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2011
     
    What are the five most important things to include in the design and five things to avoid?

    My favorites to include are doors and insulation

    and to exclude are 24/7 escalators and air cooling
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Include:

    Solar PV on that big station roof.
    Charging points for electric cars in the car park?
    An office for the ticket staff (they are the only people who can work out the cheapest ticket).
    Teleportation device for crossing to other platforms in the 30 seconds the timetable allows to make your connection.

    Avoid:
    Pay and display car park ticketing machines that require coins and a walk back to the car.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Trains that run on time.
    4 Trains a day that can get from Penzance to London in 3 hours rather than 7.
    I rather like train stations but not keen on bus ones, these need a serious rethink.

    My parents live in the Chilterns, shall ask them what they want from a new station :confused:
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Include

    1: Adequate length of platform for future stock
    2: No less than r=400m for incoming lines (vertical alignment similar consideration)
    3: Simple egress routes
    4: Adequate Hall and messaging for waiting passengers
    5: Adequate parking and bus facilities (ideally adjacent)

    Exclude

    1: Locations with drainage/flooding problems
    2: Locations with no provision for amendment/expansion
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Railway track?
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Joiner
    Would you combine new track with a cycle path in the middle :cool:
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Get thee behind me, Satan!
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    'ask not who the bells toll for, they toll for thee'

    I would combine retail shopping with rail/bus stations, a decent cafe that does not charge too much (anyone want to see the picture of the second cup of tea I got out of a £2.20 pot), a library may be a good idea, just return the book to any station. Comfy warm waiting rooms (may need a soup kitchen for the vagrants, PZ seems to attract them, and their dealers/pimps).

    Not sure you can have a station in a city centre without serious problems in rebuilding and noise. OK for an end of line, though it did nark me that MK station was not next to the shops.
    Parking is an odd one, thought the idea was to stop us using cars, not just reduce the milage, what I always hear.
    Carparks at my local stations have credit card machines or pay by text as well as coins.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    Allowing for parking gives you potential expansion space later. It's unlikely that all parking will go: You still need space for disabled cars, waiting public vehicles, potential electric vehicles and bicycles
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2011
     
    If you want to do away with parking you need much better better public transport to get to it. If there wasn't parking at my nearest station I would never use it.

    By car it's 20 mins from my house to the station. The one bus a day takes about 1 hour and 30 mins.
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    I would say some form of "secure" cycle park. Cycle theft from stations used to be, and I presume still is, a major problem.

    I know someone who got home to find his bike lock glued up with superglue so he couldn't open it. When he went back to try to force the lock someone had already done it and been away with the bike overnight. My local train station has the bike park on one of the disused platforms, so it is better, but something more is needed.
    • CommentAuthorwookey
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2011
     
    It certainly is in Cambridge, as well as massive underprovision. There is secure valet parking, but it closes at 8pm so you can't use it if your day has any chance at all of not letting you dash off by 5:30. That makes it entirely useless to everyone I know.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd 2011
     
    Posted By: wookeyThat makes it entirely useless to everyone I know

    Like the Park and Ride in Norwich then, that closes early so you can't go to the pictures or a meal after work. Though there is a hole in the hedge that I managed to squeeze the company Vectra and a lady's Suzuki through one night. Hole may still be there :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorStuartB
    • CommentTimeMay 24th 2011
     
    Clean toilets would be nice
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    Kings Cross a distant memory eh? :sad:

    What about escape in the event of fire....?

    J

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