Green Building Forum - Wind farm noise in court Fri, 01 May 2026 07:08:26 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143779#Comment_143779 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143779#Comment_143779 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:28:32 +0100 windy lamb The noise conditions for my Gaia are meaningless garbage so if they can't get things right for a simple thing like that.........even when I gave them site specific background noise data they still just put a standard ESTU condition on.
Planning Dept.s are notorious for not enforcing conditions especially when big players are concerned, they might take a different view of enforcement on little people ( like Emma and her PV for eg.). As I've said, some Councils are better than others but it seems they are all dumming down.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143782#Comment_143782 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143782#Comment_143782 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:06:53 +0100 ted http://infrastructure.planningportal.gov.uk/wp-content/ipc/uploads/projects/EN010008/2.%20Post-Submission/Application%20Documents/Environmental%20Statement/Chapter%2016%20Noise%20and%20Vibration.pdf]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143882#Comment_143882 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143882#Comment_143882 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:35:53 +0100 ted
1. Planning Inspectorate Appeal - APP/R6830/A/08/2074921
http://www.pcs.planningportal.gov.uk/pcsportal/fscdav/READONLY?OBJ=COO.2036.300.12.1441681&NAME=/Decision%202074921.pdf

2. High Court Judgment - [2010] EWHC 1106 (Admin)
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2010/1106.html

3. Court of Appeal Judgment - [2010] EWCA Civ 1635
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/1635.html]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143885#Comment_143885 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=143885#Comment_143885 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:49:37 +0100 ted
The CCC SPG for the planned new wind farm requires that the developers agree noise monitoring sites with the EHO in advance of taking any survey. This has been complied with - but how 'reasonable' those sites are I haven't checked yet.

Yes, it seems that once the CCC LDP is adopted then ALL turbines, no matter what size, will need to be 1.5km from any neighbour as a planning condition. We still don't have the PD for turbines that applies in England and Scotland. I suppose there may be some circumstances where the LPA might allow an exception - but I can see that also causing problems. The wording in the LDP doesn't allow any room for manoeuvre.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144169#Comment_144169 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144169#Comment_144169 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:34:29 +0100 ted
Hardly surprising that many people are turning against wind-farm developers with these sort of attitudes.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144171#Comment_144171 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144171#Comment_144171 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:07:41 +0100 Joiner Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144183#Comment_144183 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144183#Comment_144183 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:40:52 +0100 windy lamb
Ted, and as for the CCC LDP thing about 1.5km, how idiotic. An ill conceived blanket policy which will penalise local businesses and farmers interested in the micro&small wind sector and will do nothing to address problems from the TAN8 big wind farms.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144189#Comment_144189 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144189#Comment_144189 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:08:20 +0100 CWatters
I know planning conditions and nusiance are meant to be seperate but councils are very unlikely to support/finance a nusiance action if the wind farm doesn't breech planning conditions.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144193#Comment_144193 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144193#Comment_144193 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:07:33 +0100 CWatters
http://eastcountymagazine.org/node/9425]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144194#Comment_144194 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144194#Comment_144194 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:23:03 +0100 CWatters
They had been on for just three days....

http://www.enniscorthyguardian.ie/news/threatened-neighbour-in-windfarm-argument-3089891.html

Quote..

A 48-YEAR- OLD Ballycarney man who threatened to kill or cause serious harm to a neighbour in a row over turbines on an adjoining windfarm has been given a 12-month suspended sentence.

Aidan Kehoe, of Craanrue, Ballycarney, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford, pleaded guilty before Judge Thomas Teehan at Wexford Circuit Criminal Court to making a threat to Henry Chamney on January 26, 2011.

Sgt Ray Heffernan told the court that there is approximately 18 turbines on a windfarm erected adjacent to the home of the defendant. He said that on January 26, 2011, the defendant, who is a licensed firearm holder, drove into Mr. Chamney's yard in a very agitated state. At the time there was a shotgun in the car and there was a threat made to Mr. Chamney.

Sgt Heffernan also told the court that the shotgun was on the seat of the car. At the time the defendant showed four cartridges to Mr. Chamney which had a serious affect on him. He also said that Mr. Chamney alerted gardai to the incident. As a result the gardai went to the home of the defendant who voluntarily handed over the firearm.

This was the backdrop to an ongoing dispute, said Sgt Heffernan, adding, that it was the result of noise eminating from the turbines.

continues..]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144195#Comment_144195 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144195#Comment_144195 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:43:57 +0100 ted Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144216#Comment_144216 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144216#Comment_144216 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:58:59 +0100 CWatters Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144219#Comment_144219 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144219#Comment_144219 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:14:15 +0100 ted Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144237#Comment_144237 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144237#Comment_144237 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:52:59 +0100 CWatters Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144260#Comment_144260 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144260#Comment_144260 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:06:11 +0100 ted Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144267#Comment_144267 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144267#Comment_144267 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:33:03 +0100 windy lamb Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144269#Comment_144269 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144269#Comment_144269 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:58:14 +0100 windy lamb Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144327#Comment_144327 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144327#Comment_144327 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:18:15 +0100 CWatters Posted By: windy lamb..seems near neighbours do get some payments/compensation ...

But only if it's a "Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project" and I don't think there have been any wind farms built under that in England? Not even the 20+ turbine wind farm down south.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144344#Comment_144344 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144344#Comment_144344 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:17:30 +0100 candlemaker
On June 29, 2011, the Waubra Foundation in Australia issued an explicit cautionary notice to officials worldwide responsible for wind turbine siting decisions. The Foundation’s field research identified symptoms of people not only living, but working or visiting within 10 kilometers or turbines. In addition to symptoms listed above, the list includes depression and post traumatic stress disorder, suicidal ideation, heart attacks and more at the Toora and Waubra wind projects in Australia, where over 20 familiies have abandoned their homes due to ill health since turbines began operations.

No idea how independent the Waubra Foundation is but a 10 kilometer exclusion round wind farms seems a bit excessive (and would I guess be pretty much unworkable in the UK)]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144348#Comment_144348 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144348#Comment_144348 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:28:37 +0100 CWatters Posted By: candlemakerCW thanks for the video link well worth watching, even if a little depressing. I do wonder if in the UK such contracts/agreements with gagging clauses stopping near by residents complaining by paying them would be legal..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/8925467/Couple-settle-with-wind-farm-operators-over-unbearable-hum.html

"A judge was told today the terms of the settlement agreed by tenant farmers Sarah Jane and Julian Davis were strictly confidential."

"The operators were accused at the start of the High Court hearing earlier this year of trying to impose "a code of silence" on those examining or recording the noise the turbines caused."

"The terms of today's settlement mean that details of the how the settlement was reached will remain secret."]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144349#Comment_144349 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144349#Comment_144349 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:30:23 +0100 CWatters Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144357#Comment_144357 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144357#Comment_144357 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:57:00 +0100 Joiner
http://www.alternative-energy-action-now.com/wind-turbines-health.html]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144381#Comment_144381 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144381#Comment_144381 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:07:44 +0100 CWatters
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20561575

Abstract

Infrasonic sounds are generated internally in the body (by respiration, heartbeat, coughing, etc) and by external sources, such as air conditioning systems, inside vehicles, some industrial processes and, now becoming increasingly prevalent, wind turbines. It is widely assumed that infrasound presented at an amplitude below what is audible has no influence on the ear. In this review, we consider possible ways that low frequency sounds, at levels that may or may not be heard, could influence the function of the ear. The inner ear has elaborate mechanisms to attenuate low frequency sound components before they are transmitted to the brain. The auditory portion of the ear, the cochlea, has two types of sensory cells, inner hair cells (IHC) and outer hair cells (OHC), of which the IHC are coupled to the afferent fibers that transmit "hearing" to the brain. The sensory stereocilia ("hairs") on the IHC are "fluid coupled" to mechanical stimuli, so their responses depend on stimulus velocity and their sensitivity decreases as sound frequency is lowered. In contrast, the OHC are directly coupled to mechanical stimuli, so their input remains greater than for IHC at low frequencies. At very low frequencies the OHC are stimulated by sounds at levels below those that are heard. Although the hair cells in other sensory structures such as the saccule may be tuned to infrasonic frequencies, auditory stimulus coupling to these structures is inefficient so that they are unlikely to be influenced by airborne infrasound. Structures that are involved in endolymph volume regulation are also known to be influenced by infrasound, but their sensitivity is also thought to be low. There are, however, abnormal states in which the ear becomes hypersensitive to infrasound. In most cases, the inner ear's responses to infrasound can be considered normal, but they could be associated with unfamiliar sensations or subtle changes in physiology. This raises the possibility that exposure to the infrasound component of wind turbine noise could influence the physiology of the ear.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144382#Comment_144382 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144382#Comment_144382 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:15:51 +0100 CWatters
http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/windmill.html

Highlights...

[by the] Cochlear Fluids Research Laboratory, Washington University in St. Louis

The paper shows how the outer hair cells of the cochlea are stimulated by very low frequency sounds at up to 40 dB below the level that is heard.

There has been a widely held view that the infrasound at the levels produced by wind turbines cannot influence the ear because they are below the threshold for human hearing. Our study shows this view is incorrect.

Our group has for years been using infrasonic tones to study how the ear works. These are often described as “biasing tones”, because they allow the structures of the ear to be displaced slowly while measurements are made. For almost 10 years we have been using infrasonic 5 Hz bias tones at levels as low as 85 dB SPL (shown as the green diamond in the graph at the right) to manipulate cochlear responses in guinea pigs. The guinea pig is LESS sensitive to low frequencies than the human, so this makes you realize that low frequency infrasonic sounds ARE AFFECTING THE FUNCTION OF THE EAR at levels well below those that are heard by humans.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144388#Comment_144388 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144388#Comment_144388 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:11:31 +0100 Joiner Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144389#Comment_144389 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144389#Comment_144389 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:18:18 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: JoinerWhy has this stuff not appeared at every planning Inquiry where noise has been raised as a potential issue?
Bad science maybe, the inability of decision makers to understand it. The concept of 'rights'. Perception, persuasion, stubbornness and bloody mindedness of both parties. There is also our personal interpretation of democracy. My understanding of democracy is that they have to abide by my rules but I don't. :wink:]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144561#Comment_144561 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=144561#Comment_144561 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:57:01 +0100 CWatters
Better to spend your limited budget on a landscape or heritage expert?]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145087#Comment_145087 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145087#Comment_145087 Sun, 06 May 2012 15:26:36 +0100 CWatters
Village noise saga goes on in Palgrave

Published on Sunday 6 May 2012 13:24

RESIDENTS in Palgrave say work to decrease the noise from the village community centre’s controversial wind turbine has not worked.

The turbine, which provides the Upper Rose Lane centre with electricity, was switched off for two months while the community centre worked with Mid Suffolk District Council, turbine manufacturers GAIA and the installation company to reduce the noise emitted by the 24-metre high turbine.

But parish councillor Neil Weston said since it was switched on again last week, it has continued to cause nearby householders distress.

Adrian Wilmhurst, who lives near the turbine, added: “The noise issue has not been resolved at all. We feel there hasn’t been an improvement.”

A spokesperson for the district council said: “Over the last few months, our Environmental Health team have been monitoring the noise of the wind turbine following complaints from local residents.

“Due to the noise levels, we asked the community centre to switch it off whilst necessary works where undertaken to reduce the noise.

“Following a recent visit, we have seen that the centre has made significant improvements and that the noise from turbine is no longer classed as a statutory nuisance.

“We have been made aware that some residents still feel strongly about noise and amenity issues, and are considering these issues as part of our ongoing investigation.”

The Diss Express was unable to contact anyone from the centre.


So who gets to decide that it's "no longer classed as a statutory nuisance"? As far as I can tell there is no legal definition.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145093#Comment_145093 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145093#Comment_145093 Sun, 06 May 2012 16:03:20 +0100 ted
I suspect, that for pragmatic reasons, EHOs would implement similar conditions in similar circumstances.]]> Wind farm noise in court https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145138#Comment_145138 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=145138#Comment_145138 Mon, 07 May 2012 00:19:49 +0100 CWatters
http://www.berwick-advertiser.co.uk/news/local-headlines/six-years-and-out-for-met-mast-1-2269672

A MET mast which has been gathering data for a potential wind farm at Bewick Moor, near Chillingham, for the past six years will have to be dismantled after an application for a further extension was refused.

Newport-based Per Acciona Energy had requested an extension from Northumberland County Council’s planning and environment committee for a further six months to collect data.

However, members decided on Tuesday night that the company has had sufficient time to undertake the monitoring and that as the site is now a designated SSSI there is not strong enough justification to retain the mast.

The 47m tall met mast has been installed on land south west of Quarry House, Eglingham - within the Bewick Moor Site of Nature Conservation Importance - since July 2006. The permission for the mast had since been extended through two previous variations to allow an extension of time in 2008 and 2009.]]>