Fri, 01 May 2026 06:06:10 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141532#Comment_141532 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141532#Comment_141532 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:12:50 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: Joiner"I bet a Model-T Ford breaks down a lot less than a Ferrari and when you crash you're only doing 25mph not 125mph."
I bet it don't if done of failures per miles travelled.

Is the problem disposal of turbine blades just a matter of disposing of them, rather than storing. The process needs to be established.
The British Nuclear industry is very safe, as it the British Windturbine Industry, they are both very small scale as well, so very hard to really get mortality figures for them.
There then comes the problem of who do you count in the figures. If a van driver is delivering to the factory that makes components to either industry and gets killed, are they counted?
And then do you compare the two industries or do you compare to the general population that includes a percentage of workers from both industries, or do you exclude both the industries.
Workplace fatalities are very hard to compare.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141547#Comment_141547 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141547#Comment_141547 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:43:30 +0100 DamonHD
And I should think that the same would apply to wind turbines and other engineering disciplines requiring great care day by day.

Rgds

Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141556#Comment_141556 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141556#Comment_141556 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:35:00 +0100 Joiner
Mine was just the Touché bit. ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141558#Comment_141558 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141558#Comment_141558 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:37:52 +0100 CWatters https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141559#Comment_141559 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141559#Comment_141559 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:11:20 +0100 Gavin_A Posted By: DamonHDDeaths from all causes in the UK nuclear industry, in the time up to the Sizewell B public inquiry anyway, were lower than the general population IIRC, including things such as car accidents. Possibly simple because nuke workers are more careful in all their actions than average.

And I should think that the same would apply to wind turbines and other engineering disciplines requiring great care day by day.

Rgds

Damon
far more likely to be a result of the average salary in the nuclear industry being a little over double the national average.

£63,000 vs £24-30,000 according to the sources below




http://www.reed.co.uk/average-salary/energy/nuclear
http://career-advice.monster.co.uk/salary-benefits/pay-salary-advice/uk-average-salary-graphs/article.aspx]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141564#Comment_141564 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141564#Comment_141564 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 05:48:03 +0100 Joiner

According to the bankers, if you want the best you have to pay the best salaries. Events have proved the lie to that belief, so it's probably the case that there's less bullshit in engineering than banking.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141566#Comment_141566 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141566#Comment_141566 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:39:19 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: Joinerthere's less bullshit in engineering than banking.
'Ask 100 engineers a question and you get 100 correct answers']]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141570#Comment_141570 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141570#Comment_141570 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:56:32 +0100 Joiner ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141573#Comment_141573 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141573#Comment_141573 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 07:36:43 +0100 SteamyTea ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141576#Comment_141576 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141576#Comment_141576 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 07:53:19 +0100 Joiner ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141581#Comment_141581 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141581#Comment_141581 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:29:49 +0100 JSHarris https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141593#Comment_141593 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141593#Comment_141593 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:19:48 +0100 windy lamb ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141621#Comment_141621 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141621#Comment_141621 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:10:36 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141676#Comment_141676 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141676#Comment_141676 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:29:06 +0100 Joiner https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141679#Comment_141679 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141679#Comment_141679 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:07:19 +0100 windy lamb https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141681#Comment_141681 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141681#Comment_141681 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:17:51 +0100 Joiner ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141704#Comment_141704 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141704#Comment_141704 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:01:41 +0100 DamonHD
Let's put the fast reactors *in* Ferraris and kill several birds with one gamma ray, as it were...

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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141741#Comment_141741 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141741#Comment_141741 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:17:28 +0100 Joiner ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141742#Comment_141742 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141742#Comment_141742 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:21:06 +0100 DamonHD
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Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141763#Comment_141763 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141763#Comment_141763 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:26:03 +0100 windy lamb https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141765#Comment_141765 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141765#Comment_141765 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:44:49 +0100 Joiner https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141786#Comment_141786 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141786#Comment_141786 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:09:36 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141790#Comment_141790 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=141790#Comment_141790 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:53:52 +0100 djh Posted By: windy lambI was never very fond of Ferraris - only the sought that you hitch a plough to
I believe you're thinking of Lamborghinis rather than Ferraris.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142493#Comment_142493 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142493#Comment_142493 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:05:48 +0100 ted
Trying to find the details now.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142501#Comment_142501 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142501#Comment_142501 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:37:27 +0100 windy lamb
Ted - the judges guidance will be interesting.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142513#Comment_142513 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142513#Comment_142513 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:37:23 +0100 ted http://www.39essex.co.uk/docs/news/tegni_cymru_cyf_v_welsh_ministers.pdf]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142519#Comment_142519 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142519#Comment_142519 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:15:55 +0100 ted http://www.dpea.scotland.gov.uk/Documents/qJ12843/A2178007.pdf

(That previous note was written by William Norris QC - who lost the case.)]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142520#Comment_142520 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142520#Comment_142520 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:20:02 +0100 ted http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2010/1106.html]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142535#Comment_142535 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142535#Comment_142535 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:37:42 +0100 CWatters
That allowed the inspector to rule that a second wind farm in the particular area in question would mean people were subject to noise for a greater range of wind directions and that this would be unacceptable. That despite noise levels being predicted to be below ETSU.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142541#Comment_142541 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7563&Focus=142541#Comment_142541 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:07:54 +0100 ted http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk/planningudp/english/text16.htm#MEW_10

But it certainly seems that here in Wales that ETSU-R-97 is not the absolute test of acceptability for wind farm noise and with legal precedent.]]>