Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:20:22 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=7998#Comment_7998 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=7998#Comment_7998 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:23:58 +0100 Solar bore
We have Solar Panel

They tell me all there machines are capable of HOT & cold fill.

It is a LG WM14445FS 1400RPM if you want one go into Curry's shop and pick up a leaflet there is more information on it than I could find on there web site, I then ordered it online.

It is apparently the only thing that can be bought with Hot + cold fill.
John Lewis no longer sell them I thought they imported units made in U.S.A

It will be interesting to see if our electric bills drop as I am hoping.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146634#Comment_146634 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146634#Comment_146634 Mon, 21 May 2012 23:17:47 +0100 snyggapa
The machine is going right next to the DHW cylinder, so pipe losses ought to be "minimal" if I could find a machine with a hot fill capability. Does anyone have any advice?

Thanks

-Steve]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146639#Comment_146639 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146639#Comment_146639 Tue, 22 May 2012 00:01:43 +0100 aviatrix http://www.iseappliances.co.uk/index.php/products/washing-machines/eco-washing-machine]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146647#Comment_146647 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146647#Comment_146647 Tue, 22 May 2012 08:12:57 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: aviatrixIf this is as good as it claims, it will be very good. Prioritises hot water supply too.
http://www.iseappliances.co.uk/index.php/products/washing-machines/eco-washing-machine

For anyone wanting to do more research on this machine it is a re-badged Asko which is part of the Gorenje Group.

I think the comparable model is the Asko W6884 Eco.

Looks like a good machine, if expensive but cheaper than Miele and the Asko company tag line is "Built to last longer".]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146649#Comment_146649 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146649#Comment_146649 Tue, 22 May 2012 08:33:43 +0100 Joiner https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146993#Comment_146993 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146993#Comment_146993 Sat, 26 May 2012 08:43:44 +0100 WillInAberdeen
Www.solarfriend.co.uk/machines.html]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146994#Comment_146994 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=146994#Comment_146994 Sat, 26 May 2012 08:59:58 +0100 Joiner A watering can, Will? ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=147016#Comment_147016 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=147016#Comment_147016 Sat, 26 May 2012 13:29:18 +0100 Chris P Bacon
It is possible to hurt your self. You can cut, burn, choke, poison, or scald yourself messing about with this. You could also fall from the roof or fall down the ladder with a cable around your neck on to a wooden stake. You could electrocute your self ( with power tools ). Blow lamps can explode and solder flux can give you dermatitis. You could get tetanus or blood poisoning from a splinter or paper cut. You could have an accident on the way to B&Q in the car. So if you follow these instructions its at your own risk. Wear goggles, steel toe cap boots, thick leather gloves, a face mask and hard hat at all times. Use an RCD and proper scaffolding . Never work outside in a thunder storm. Anything you do is your own fault, it's not my fault. I am not your mum. Good Luck see you in the next life.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=147022#Comment_147022 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=147022#Comment_147022 Sat, 26 May 2012 16:15:42 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181218#Comment_181218 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181218#Comment_181218 Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:26:29 +0100 RobinB
Has anyone actuallu got or seen one of these ISE machines? We need a new washing machine asap!]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181449#Comment_181449 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181449#Comment_181449 Wed, 07 Aug 2013 21:26:05 +0100 TimSmall
There are probably older A rated or better hot+cold machines on the second hand market, but you'd have to do a bit of research I suppose...

Shame you can't get some sort of "I'm going to want hot water next" signal out of them, then you could hook up an external diverter valve. You could probably bodge something based on timings from when the cycle starts, but it'd be a faff and need its own set of controls I dare say.

BTW, my Bosch dishwasher manual said that it'd be happy getting preheated water up to 50 degrees, so I always feed it solar heated water, at water ever temperature the solar/woodstove thermal store is at (capped at 50 degrees by a mixer valve)...]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181452#Comment_181452 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181452#Comment_181452 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:06:34 +0100 SteamyTea
Edit:
Thinking for about this, I measured the water usage of my machine on the ordinary 40°C wash, it used 33lt. The mean temperature was 35°C
Worse case would be that the cold comes in at 3°C, so 1.2 kWh (about what it uses when I measured it).
Say my water pipe from the cylinder to the machine is 10m and the pipe is 15mm, then that is 0.18 lt of hot water that is left in the pipe. 0.007 kWh for pipe losses (actually less as the pipe will cool to internal temperature).
As my water is currently heated by E7, and I try very hard to use the washer on the night rate, not really worth me doing anything about it.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181454#Comment_181454 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181454#Comment_181454 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:23:46 +0100 GaryB
Dishwasher has already been connected to hot fill (Indesit, can accept hot supply up to 60 deg C), I will look at the washing machine soon...]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181509#Comment_181509 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181509#Comment_181509 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:42:44 +0100 arnyj
You can imagine my suprise when clearing out my Mums place went into a home, i found my mums washing machine Creda 1000 Supaspeed was hot and cold fill needless to say its plumbed in just in case its needed]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181519#Comment_181519 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181519#Comment_181519 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:58:05 +0100 RobinB
I was quite liking the idea of a sensible hot fill with the delay timer so it could start of when it's most likely to be sunny to use the PV. Would take a lot of sun to save the £££ for a new machine though!

I also have our dishwasher plumbed to hot. Only worth it on our water-miserly m/c because we have a very short pipe run.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181522#Comment_181522 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181522#Comment_181522 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 22:14:02 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181533#Comment_181533 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181533#Comment_181533 Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:43:43 +0100 Chris P Bacon Posted By: RobinBWould take a lot of sun to save the £££ for a new machine though!

That's the key point. I was intent on buying the ISE machine, but then a higher capacity (but cold fill) Siemens machine came up in the January sales for little more than a third of the price of the ISE machine. I may live to regret it but I figured that even if I have to replace it sooner the Siemens will be the cheaper option overall. Only time will tell.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181585#Comment_181585 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181585#Comment_181585 Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:17:22 +0100 TimSmall
10 metres of 10mm PEX (1.6mm wall thickness) holds 0.55 litres
10 metres of 15mm copper (0.5mm wall thickness) holds 1.65 litres]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181627#Comment_181627 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=767&Focus=181627#Comment_181627 Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:02:19 +0100 RobinB