Tue, 09 Jun 2026 12:25:01 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114632#Comment_114632 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114632#Comment_114632 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:36:51 +0100 Joiner
Mentioned it to a builder mate yestersday and he asked me where he could find details of the change. ]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114641#Comment_114641 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114641#Comment_114641 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:15:18 +0100 beelbeebub
Non-condensing boilers are pretty much dead as they can't meet the minimum efficiency targets.

AFAIK it business as usual for fitting gas boilers to houses new build or otherwise. I mean, what else can we use? A condensing gas boiler is pretty much the most efficient and cleanest way of turning fossil fuels into heat.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114644#Comment_114644 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114644#Comment_114644 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:08:22 +0100 Joiner http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/forum114/comments.php?DiscussionID=7680&page=1#Item_11]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114656#Comment_114656 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114656#Comment_114656 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:17:08 +0100 jamesingram I've heard this from 3 sources , one a large plumbing company involved in new build
Had a search around the tinternet and no clue from the gov.
perhap is just a rumour to stimulate renewable tech. sale for the industry as everything else is a bit flat.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114660#Comment_114660 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114660#Comment_114660 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:55:57 +0100 Joiner
Can't really see it being true, given the CONTINUING presence of gas in the overall equation for decades ahead, as mentioned in that other thread... http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/forum114/comments.php?DiscussionID=7681&page=1#Item_6]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114661#Comment_114661 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114661#Comment_114661 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:03:23 +0100 jamesingram , there still 18 million + gas boilers out there that'll need looking after and replacing in time

How many homes that now exist will exist in 50 years time or what percentage of home in 50 years time will be built after 2015, not sure but I think it will be small.

cheers Jim]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114662#Comment_114662 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114662#Comment_114662 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:10:43 +0100 CWatters
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/code_for_sust_homes.pdf

As I understand it the idea was that they were going to change the Building Regs Part L so that all new houses would be:

2010 - Code 3
2013 - Code 4 (PassivHaus standard)
2016 - Code 6 (Zero Carbon including cooking?)

I've no idea if the timetable is still the same or if the codes will change but 2013 is only 16 months away.

I'm not very familiar with the codes but I've seen it suggested that a gas boiler on it's own won't meet Code 4, you need solar as well ???

I think the building industry is still arguing about Code 6.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114666#Comment_114666 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114666#Comment_114666 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:16:25 +0100 Joiner https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114669#Comment_114669 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114669#Comment_114669 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:20:51 +0100 CWatters https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114672#Comment_114672 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7682&Focus=114672#Comment_114672 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:29:55 +0100 Nick Parsons
And at one time public-funded projects such as hsg ass'n schemes were going to need level 6 from 2013. I wonder if that's changed?

''I'm not very familiar with the codes but I've seen it suggested that a gas boiler on it's own won't meet Code 4, you need solar as well ??? ''

IIRC you can get level 3 with fabric measures only, but after that 'bolt-on goodies' kick in. The worrying thing is people were using renewables to even get them to level 3, which implies insufficient fabric stds. That should not be possible now as the Oct 2010 Bldg Regs are the energy req't of level 3. (25% over 2006). Likewise te next revision will equal te energy stds of level 4 (44% over 2006).]]>