Fri, 01 May 2026 17:10:02 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8961#Comment_8961 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8961#Comment_8961 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:35:01 +0000 Peter A Before you say it yes I do know this is the green "building" site, but I do need to collect building materials from time to time and it would be nice to keep the carbon foot print down.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8968#Comment_8968 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8968#Comment_8968 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:03:54 +0000 howdytom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8970#Comment_8970 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8970#Comment_8970 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:23:20 +0000 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8971#Comment_8971 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8971#Comment_8971 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000 Peter A https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8974#Comment_8974 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8974#Comment_8974 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:37:32 +0000 Nick Parsons
Why not go for straight veg oil and a 2-tank system? I used to have a stationary Lister engine for demo purposes. It started on pump diesel and as soon as it was warm, we switched to SVO.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8975#Comment_8975 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8975#Comment_8975 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:43:10 +0000 Peter A Posted By: howdytomhttp://www.itsnoteasybeinggreen.org/index.htm try this link, seen on tv, dick strawbridge.

Unless I missed something, all I could find was a forum and a course that was oversubscribed and sometime ago?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8979#Comment_8979 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8979#Comment_8979 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:35:44 +0000 howdytom tom]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8985#Comment_8985 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=8985#Comment_8985 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:08:35 +0000 Nick Parsons https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9002#Comment_9002 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9002#Comment_9002 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:24:42 +0000 Roger https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9005#Comment_9005 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9005#Comment_9005 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:19:14 +0000 howdytom could you point me to the relevant info, as that revelation has interested me.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9006#Comment_9006 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9006#Comment_9006 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:31:10 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9008#Comment_9008 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9008#Comment_9008 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:39:28 +0000 Roger
"The changes to the Biofuel and Other Fuel Substitutes (Payment of Excise Duty etc.) Regulations 2004 come into effect on 30th June 2007. They are: A de minimis production level of 2,500 litres per annum below which producers will not need to enter premises, submit returns or pay duty"...

Also see: http://www.etruk.com/
and.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/oct/27/motoring.motoring

Rog.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9010#Comment_9010 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9010#Comment_9010 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:53:24 +0000 Tuna
The most difficult thing is assessing your oil in the first place - you need to do a titration, which does require some precision. Once done though, the rest of the job is easy.

If you can find a supplier of methanol and buy in reasonable quantities (ie a 200 litre steel drum, which will make 1000 litres of biodiesel), you should be able to produce biodiesel at around 13-14p a litre.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9011#Comment_9011 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9011#Comment_9011 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:38:22 +0000 mook https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9014#Comment_9014 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9014#Comment_9014 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:05:14 +0000 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9033#Comment_9033 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9033#Comment_9033 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:52:52 +0000 Peter A http://greenfuels.co.uk/fuelpod.pdf
At £995+vat I wonder what the pay back would be? A homebrew still type of kit still appeals to me...]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9036#Comment_9036 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9036#Comment_9036 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:19:15 +0000 jamesingram
I buy my biodiesel 85p litre at the moment with VAT reciept


Jim]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9055#Comment_9055 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9055#Comment_9055 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:08:45 +0000 Nick Parsons
Yes, but watch out for gloopiness on cold days. Even our local (Sheffield) bio-diesel maker (BioUK fuels) fights a bit shy of using undiluted bio d in the winter, and that's with (as I understood) some sorting of its viscosity compared with SVO.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9056#Comment_9056 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9056#Comment_9056 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:19:30 +0000 jamesingram with some 8mm mircobore coiled/rapped round it , then the fuel line connected through it to prewarm the oil
,but this wouldnt work at start up, and you'd end up with the problems Nick mentioned
A guy who sells filtered recycled oil was running his van like that, I'll ask him what he does in the winter.
the other one to stick 20% kerosene in it but I'm not sure thats legal.

Jim]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9062#Comment_9062 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9062#Comment_9062 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:26:12 +0000 richy
Thing is, will we ever see really cold conditions again?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9072#Comment_9072 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9072#Comment_9072 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:05:20 +0000 Chris Wardle https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9076#Comment_9076 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9076#Comment_9076 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:38:10 +0000 Tuna
The biggest problem is that diesel engines are incredibly forgiving for what they'll run on. I've heard loads of stories of weird stuff that people throw into their fuel tanks and - hey, the car still runs! The trouble comes a few hundred miles down the road when your engine needs to be replaced. Unless you really know what you're doing, why risk an expensive repair bill? The fact that your car will turn over, start and even run smoothly on a fuel doesn't mean that damage isn't occuring. Particular problem areas for all replacement fuels are the fuel pump, injectors and on modern cars, the sensors and ECU. Because diesels have high pressure fuel systems, if one of those breaks it costs a fortune to replace.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9078#Comment_9078 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9078#Comment_9078 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:02:36 +0000 fostertom Posted By: mookcan one get biodiesel delivered, like conventional oil/keroYes - as I said above, 'f you have a tank beside your driveway and get it filled with commercial biodiesel, you can specify e.g. half of it is for the car (with duty), half for the boiler (no duty) - no-one checks what (if any) your proportionate use really is.']]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9080#Comment_9080 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9080#Comment_9080 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:06 +0000 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9238#Comment_9238 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9238#Comment_9238 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:38:13 +0000 adrian hollister
All the veggie oil is from chip shops etc and I filter it using the most basic drum filter (available on ebay!). Best bit is that it requires no energy to process, just time.

I've some pictures here for those interested http://www.adrianhollister.com/index.php?/archives/21-Landrover-Discovery-300TDI-running-on-100%-SVO-straight-veggie-oil.html]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9268#Comment_9268 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9268#Comment_9268 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:41:39 +0000 Mike (Up North)
There was a special feature on DIY Bio in the August issue of Car Mechanics, plus adverts for various fluids and bits of kit to do it, as well as whole set ups for about a grand being advertised.
Cheers]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9307#Comment_9307 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9307#Comment_9307 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:15:29 +0000 adrian hollister
I spent a whole 60 quid on my approach - which is to heat the veggie oil fuel before and after the fuel filter. At this time of year I also run Veggie Oil blended with Petrol at a 95% veggie 5% petrol mix. I've done a few thousand miles on veggie oil without a hitch so far.

Wouldn't it be nice if all those big diggers, JCB's etc on a building site used old veggie oil.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9338#Comment_9338 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9338#Comment_9338 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:31 +0000 jamesingram
I wouldn't try it though

Adrian great blog, I emailed it to couple of landrover nuts I know , they loved it]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9340#Comment_9340 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=834&Focus=9340#Comment_9340 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:44:07 +0000 Bluemoon