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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
These two books are the perfect starting place to help you get to grips with one of the most vitally important aspects of our society - our homes and living environment.

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    • CommentAuthorGBP-Keith
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2007
    I would like the GBF community to get involved with the planning of the forth edition which we may have to do before the end of the year. To get the ball rolling, please tell me what you hate or is just plain annoying about the third edition.
    Looks like everyone loves it!
    • CommentAuthorJohnB
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007
    As a newbie and as a start , may I suggest
    (a) much more detailed indices?
    (b) each volume's index to include references to the other volume's contents?
    (c) more exhaustive technical source data - for example where in either volume is a full list of common U
    values especially of existing trad building materials - neither indices help at all; &
    (d) larger and more detailed climate conditions maps to allow to allow a specific location to be assessed also h
    add an overlay of at least motorways or perhaps main contours.

    (The Whole House book's index is also weak by the way).
    • CommentAuthorGBP-Keith
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007
    Good points John. I was very aware during indexing the difficulty of index linking between volumes. I may look into more computer based auto linking/indexing in future which will dynamically update links as pages change during development.
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2007
    How about some standard details and specifications for key elements of buildings:

    Solid External Wall
    Timber Frame External Wall
    External Wall insulation
    Solid Floors.
    Underfloor heating
    Roofs structures - Warm and cold roof details.

    The above can in particular address cold bridging and airtightness.

    I would also like to see more focus on the actual performance of well designed energy efficient buildings.
    A piece on building with Compressed Earth Blocks in the Low Impact Building section and one on Masonry Stoves (inc. use for heating water and cooking) would be of interest to me.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2007 edited
    Hi Keith
    Yes, a small section on whole life costing would be useful with cross-reference from embodied energies (eg page 277): Reason for this is that you can't accurately assess embodied environmental impact without reference to both the durability and also versatility of the built environment (it is, for instance, possible to prove that some concrete and brick technologies produce less C02 than imported timber per anum of lifespan).
    Jon M
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2007
    Also it might be useful to standardize units. A mini conversion table for those that use imperial might be useful as an aide to vol2 (if you want to sell to the US market). Also make sure that the geographical location of data is shown if you want to expand abroad.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2007
    Also: Not sure I agree with the idea of standard details unless it is perhaps a few example details: Much of what is happening in this field relies on innovation and Standard details as used by the industry, whilst making design quicker, generally stifle the learning process.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2007
    Also check internet links as not all of them work now
    • CommentAuthorGBP-Keith
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2007
    All very good points Jon thanks. I'm going to chew over your suggestions.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2007 edited
    Hi keith

    Also, it might be worth, if you have resources, to have your web links to the green building bible website rather than direct so that you can update the links as required (it also gives people a link into this site)

    So, for instance, rather than having a link to http://projects/bre.co.uk/sap2005/ (which is now dead as far as I can see) you would link to http://www.greeenbuildingbible.co.uk/links/sap2005/ and the index.html would autoredirect to the appropriate website as long as it's alive and then become a new links page as things change


    edit: I mention this because there'a an awful lot of links that I would like to include
    • CommentAuthorGBP-Keith
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2007
    You are right Jon. links are like phone numbers and e-mail addresses. Often short lived. But the idea would strap our staff to regular checking and updating rather than just checking and updating at the next hard copy publishing date.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2007 edited
    Hi keith

    True,. The way I've seen it done is to put a 1 second autodelay on the link so that your index.html shows up (with a little message saying something like, 'if the link is broken, click here to notify us') which puts the onus onto the reader to keep your links up to date for you. On the other hand, having links die does help to persuade people to update their editions. On the other hand again, if a link is dead and people try to use it, you could use your index.html to inform them that a new edition is available.

    All the best

    • CommentAuthormzthomps
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2008
    I am interested to know how much is new in the 4th edition compared to the content of the 3rd?
    • CommentAuthorGBP-Keith
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2008
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