Green Building Forum - Global warming swindle or real? Tue, 09 Jun 2026 09:15:27 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20747#Comment_20747 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20747#Comment_20747 Thu, 15 May 2008 14:23:23 +0100 joe.e Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20760#Comment_20760 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20760#Comment_20760 Thu, 15 May 2008 17:39:04 +0100 Albert Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20765#Comment_20765 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20765#Comment_20765 Thu, 15 May 2008 18:42:16 +0100 fostertom Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20777#Comment_20777 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20777#Comment_20777 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:35:45 +0100 joe.e Posted By: AlbertOne and a half -- the Japanese bit of WW2 was triggered by US embargoes IIRC.
Well, up to a point; Japan had been in a profoundly militaristic, imperialist mode since the end of the 19th century - the war with China in 1894, and with Russia in 1904, then with China through the '30's. They thought of themselves as an emerging world power, and that the Pacific was their natural territory, in the same way that Germany though of Eastern Europe as their destined lebensraum. That was always going to end in conflict with America.
Posted By: fostertomTrue, up to 1939, America could trust Europe to cause all the mayhem. But then having funded the allied effort by loan, and taken payment in the form of most of Britain's vastly dominant worldwide commercial interests, America was one of only two players left standing by the end of WW2, and so eventually inherited the World Empire.

Yes - the then American administration were quite explicit about the opportunity that the war offered to end the British Empire. It was more or less the price of entering the European war. But I'm not convinced that America has been the root of all evil since - humans have always been prone to war and idiocy, everywhere, always. America is just very big and rich, so they have been able to afford to do more stupid stuff. Still, not long too go for them now. Bankruptcy and isolationism loom, in my opinion, in an oil-deprived world. Although, as someone mentioned earlier on this forum, Americans do seem to be able to really turn things around when the urge takes them.]]> Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20798#Comment_20798 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20798#Comment_20798 Fri, 16 May 2008 07:29:26 +0100 bot de paille
Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye," was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."]]> Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20803#Comment_20803 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20803#Comment_20803 Fri, 16 May 2008 08:37:12 +0100 joe.e Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20821#Comment_20821 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20821#Comment_20821 Fri, 16 May 2008 11:21:52 +0100 biffvernon Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20822#Comment_20822 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20822#Comment_20822 Fri, 16 May 2008 11:28:59 +0100 bot de paille
global carbon tax and nuclear power (weapons)anyone?]]> Global warming swindle or real? https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20827#Comment_20827 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=89&Focus=20827#Comment_20827 Fri, 16 May 2008 12:44:01 +0100 fostertom Posted By: joe.enot convinced that America has been the root of all evil sinceNot all of it, but whatever they (and we, as their relatively insignificant best friend/faithful steward first in line for the scraps) touch it's far more catastrophic than the age-old tribal/warlord scraps have always been.]]>