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    • CommentAuthordelboy
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2012
     
    See below a detail of a party wall foundation. Even if the cavity is insulated there will still be a thermal bridge running down the blockwork into the foundation.

    Can anyone suggest a detail to eliminate this cold bridge?
      Fdn detail.jpg
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2012
     
    Isn't it the same detail as for an external cavity wall? Or rather, the inner halves of two cavity walls placed face to face. Carbonlite silver has one course of 'ultralight load-bearing block'.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2012
     
    I would insulate the cavity all the way down, and use a course of 150mm aerated concrete above the beam and block floor (even though I hate the stuff).
  1.  
    Maybe not exactly what you're looking for but here's some Passive House details for internal walls that could be modified;
    http://www.viking-house.co.uk/downloads/Loadbearing%20Slab%20LL.pdf,
    http://www.viking-house.co.uk/downloads/Loadbearing%20Slab%202.pdf
    • CommentAuthorTimSmall
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2012 edited
     
    As has been said AAC is one option (k=0.11W/mK for 2.9kN aircrete blocks) Foamglas Perinsul (k=0.058W/mK), and that Marmox Thermoblock (XPS block with concrete cylinders embedded in it - but I think that's probably not such a good bet in this case - not tall enough).

    That's a lot of concrete in that strip (I assume tricky ground conditions) - were there any other options? Geotechnical survey?
  2.  
    Posted By: TimSmallAAC is one option (k=0.11W/mK for 2.9kN aircrete blocks)
    BRE Scotland gives them a lambda of 0.25W/mK when used for foundations.
    • CommentAuthorTimSmall
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2012
     
    Posted By: Viking House[AAC] BRE Scotland gives them a lambda of 0.25W/mK when used for foundations.


    In the detail given, they'd need to be on top of the beam+block floor to do any good I think? I was thinking that this would mean above-DPC, but maybe not (looking at the detail in the drawing). Maybe one course above + one below DPC?

    There are insulated beam+block systems which could be used instead I suppose (where the "blocks" are XPS, and wrap around the bottom of the beams). This might allow for insulation to wrap further down the party wall below DPC.
    • CommentAuthorwavy
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2012
     
    The R value of Aircrete is known to decrease when wet so you might want to consider an extra DPC at lower level.
    Get an engineer to check the loads on the Aircrete.
    Agree that suspended floors with insulation below can deal with this problem more easily - Have a look at 'Jetfloor'. If the insulation is below the structural floor you can extend it downwards to lengthen the cold bridge.
    • CommentAuthorTimSmall
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2012 edited
     
    Posted By: Viking House

    > BRE Scotland gives them a lambda of 0.25W/mK when used for foundations.

    I assume that's this document:

    http://www.bre.co.uk/filelibrary/pdf/rpts/BR_443_(2006_Edition).pdf

    (page 24)?

    It's a shame they don't state which strength AAC block that is - but I'm assuming it's 3.6N/mm²

    http://www.heidelbergcement.com/uk/en/hanson/products/blocks/aircrete_blocks/thermalite_trenchblock.htm

    ... says:
    "Mean compressive strength not less than 3.6N/mm² (7.3N/mm²: Hi-Strength)"
    "Designed thermal conductivity below ground (λ) 0.23W/mK (0.31W/mK: Hi-Strength)"

    ... for comparison, the same people state thermal conductivity (λ) 0.15W/mK for their 3.6N/mm² block above DPC, and 0.19W/mK for the 7.3N/mm² block.


    Presumably, this means that the 2.9N/mm² blocks do a little better than 0.25W/mK when (similarly) damp. I'm assuming for regularly waterlogged ground, this gets worse (Viking - I think I saw you quote 0.4W/mK somewhere?).

    For the benefit of others reading this, the table I'm looking at give a (dry I presume) medium-weight concrete block a thermal conductivity of 0.5 W/mK.
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