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    • CommentAuthorchriskemp
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012 edited
     
    The Self Build Portal is deathly quiet and I get the impression many members on here are in "the game" and are already in the know....

    The LinkedIn self build forum is also very quiet.

    Where else online do aspiring Self Builders hang out?
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    Shouldn't they be busy building before the interest rates go up :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorchriskemp
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: jamesingram</cite>Shouldn't they be busy building before the interest rates go up<img src="/forum114/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/bigsmile.gif" alt=":bigsmile:" title=":bigsmile:"></img></blockquote>

    not down my way, 'tis lashing it down!
    • CommentAuthorjamesingram
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012 edited
     
    Ok , I hear on bad weather days you may find them here , or was that what you ment by self build portal ?
    http://www.ebuild.co.uk/community/

    Get the roof felted asap then you can work 24/7 or go for a tin top scaf. not as dear as some presume
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    james, give me an idea of cost? - I should know that.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    There is a selfbuild group on Yahoo that I was heavily involved with a few years ago and now just dip in and out of. Part of the reason for that is I hate the interface (bring back NNTP).
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      CommentAuthorJSHarris
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    My understanding is that ebuild.co.uk (a forum that I've been a member of for several years, but no longer bother with) has recently changed its spam policy, so rather than seemingly welcoming spammers and those intent on just pushing their own business interests, it now has a modicum of restraint on commercially-related stuff. Whether or not it's worth sticking with is debatable, the abundance of spammers managed to drive me well away............
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    As a newly installed mod on ebuild, Jeremy, I can assure you that spam is now lasting a matter of seconds. Those of doubtful veracity are warned and their posts have any potentially offending parts excised, with an explanation of how they've offended sensibilities. And you know how sensitive I am! :angry:

    It is a shadow of its former self though, although starting to show signs of recovery.

    Posters on there are frequently guided to the GBF for more detailed responses.
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    Tom, depends on size as ever , normal scaf. price plus £15-25m2 for tin top plus additional lifts/support required
    • CommentAuthoran02ew
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2012
     
    Posted By: jamesingramTom, depends on size as ever , normal scaf. price plus £15-25m2 for tin top plus additional lifts/support required


    You get what you pay for, i have paid £4000 for a cover scaf over a standard victorian mid terrace when other quotes were £5500 but contractor used old sheet which leaked and he had to return several times to repair old nail holes.:sad:
    • CommentAuthorSprocket
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    > or go for a tin top scaf

    We've done that on our second building here now. And fabric covers on the sides help keep the wind out too.
    This one is a new build. I hadn't thought it would be so necessary but with the recent rain I'm very glad it's there.

    First one was a barn restoration and in middle of winter so it was a huge help with all the roofing.
    We needed scaffolding for the roof and repointing (as well as inside) so the few K on top was well worthwhile IMHO. We'd be a long way behind without it.
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    There does appear to have been a sea-change in ebuild admin's attitude towards spammers. If you hit the View New Content link over on the right and then hit 'Members' directly under the red highlighted 'Forums' logo, you'll see quite a few recent new members who have been banned because they've spammed.

    And mods can flag a new poster as a spammer, which effectively kills him or her off. I'm on first thing, over breakfast, and then again at lunchtime (sometime between times if I'm waiting for something to cure in the workshop), again at tea time and again last thing at night, so if they do try it on they're not going to be around long.

    I hate them with a passion. If you want advertising then you pay for it, you don't take advantage of a facility someone else is paying to maintain. And I despise the ones that come onto forums purporting to "help" whilst inviting people to contact them off-forum by going directly to either a telephone number or business url.

    There are a few long-standing and proven-valuable contributors on ebuild (as there are on here) who offer advice based on their professional experience in the particular sector they're engaged in, in which case it's churlish to stop them displaying a professional 'signature' in the footer once they've established their bona fides as a genuine contributor who respects the fora* ethos.

    The significant change in ebuild's approach is the possible introduction of a rule that states that before a professional 'signature' can be added to posts, at least two constructive contributions must have been made without reference to the poster's trade or profession. It's a start.


    *http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/forum
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      CommentAuthorDamonHD
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    I'm the/a SPAMmer-killer over at fieldlines: I try to stop them getting in in the first place (some combination of bad smells from dodgy looking email addresses (eg including "seo"), IPs in a handful of countries, really stupid user names (eg including "sex" or "seo"); all new users are manually vetted) then watch for dodgy stuff in their profile, then watch their first post(s).

    We don't allow any commercial links for the first few posts, and inane rubbish to raise the post count doesn't cut any ice.

    Most SPAMmers have no patience...

    It takes a really big chunk of my time several times per day, but I think it's worth doing.

    I'd like the bleeding SPAMmers forced to pay for my time at my normal billing rates: that would sting. %-P

    Rgds

    Damon
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      CommentAuthorJSHarris
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    I've kept a list of all the companies that have spammed ebuild, or at least those that I've seen. When looking to buy stuff for the house I automatically exclude any of the companies on that list. By chance, we looked at kitchens from one of them at a show (at the time I didn't remember them being on my spammers list). They consequently emailed me to follow up our query, I checked the list, saw they were on it and told them I wouldn't be dealing with them on principle. Maybe if more people tried something like this they might get the message that spamming actually puts potential customers off.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    The last few times I've visited other self build forums they have been deadly quite!

    Mind you the whole of the building game is quite and no wonder, I've made offers on two building plots recently and both were turned down. I have a feeling everyone is holding their breath waiting for an upturn in the economy, I think it could be a long wait!!

    Anyway, brew time over, back to painting (inside).
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    Posted By: TriassicI've made offers on two building plots recently and both were turned down. I have a feeling everyone is holding their breath waiting for an upturn in the economy

    It could be argued that it is because we have too much money and can afford to hang onto our assets.:wink:
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      CommentAuthorJSHarris
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    I was sent the details of a tiny building plot a couple of days ago (from one of the "free" land search sites) with an asking price of £35,000. Not in a great part of Wiltshire, but not that bad, the main problem being the small plot size of only 140 m². Not long ago even a small plot like this would have been up around the £60k to £80k mark, so there are signs that people are being a bit more realistic with pricing.

    Some are certainly just sitting tight, in the hope that there will be an upturn, but that has risks, too. Our plot had been bought by a chap in 2004 for a self-build, but he struggled to get PP for what he wanted, paid too much for the plot because he didn't realise getting services to it would cost well over £20k, and ended up reaching a state where he couldn't be done with building a house any more, so he sold it to us at a significant loss over the 2004 price. Add in that PP needs to be renewed every three years, and planning rules and guidance may change in that time, and there are risks and costs in just holding on to plots in the hope of an upturn.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2012
     
    Unless you're a box builder and the system's designated swathes of grade A farmland for you to safely sit on.
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