Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:25:16 +0100 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152169#Comment_152169 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152169#Comment_152169 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:55:24 +0100 DamonHD http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/feature/2191543/businessgreen-leaders-awards-2012-knowsley-housing-trust-promises-to-change-the-energy-efficiency-game

(Ducks)]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152171#Comment_152171 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152171#Comment_152171 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:06:18 +0100 SteamyTea
Was pondering the other day if sorting out houses really is the quickest and most effected way to get the UKs emissions down.
Would we not be better off tacking transport first as we are used to renewing vehicles but seem to only swap houses (due to the low build numbers).
in 2011, Transport was responsible for 119 Mt CO2, residential was 67 Mt.
(http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/stats/climate-change/4817-2011-uk-greenhouse-gas-emissions-provisional-figur.pdf)

Sorry for highjacking.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152178#Comment_152178 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152178#Comment_152178 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:18:24 +0100 DamonHD
And from what I hear domestic/housing is likely to prove to be one of the easiest to deliver in terms of potential Mt savings and cost to get them.

Rgds

Damon]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152183#Comment_152183 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152183#Comment_152183 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:33:06 +0100 SteamyTea The government though is scared to 'hit the hard working family' as well as the poor.
Just strikes me as strange that we may be tackling the wrong area first.
Always comes down to what is charged, we just need to charge more. But we both no that.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152202#Comment_152202 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152202#Comment_152202 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:15:58 +0100 fostertom
Whereas the housing stock grows but slowly - and the whole space-heating element cd be reduced to near zero in 2 decades, if solar were fully embraced. Lighting and cooking also reducing dramatically. And it's not just housing - same goes for the rest of the building stock using same technology.

Electronics shd be split from housing/other buildings. It follows a curve of its own - great reductions in power consumption versus increase in numbers.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152214#Comment_152214 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152214#Comment_152214 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:43:41 +0100 RobinB
Be interesting to see if they can seperate the savings contribution from improved airtightness v.that of the insulation per se.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152219#Comment_152219 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152219#Comment_152219 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:16:28 +0100 skyewright Posted By: DamonHD(Ducks)
At a very quick glance it looks as though the reduction in air changes could be a big factor in the effectiveness of the system:

Quote: ...reduction in the number of air changes per hour experienced by the building to just four air changes per hour – a huge reduction on the 13 air changes per hour that were occuring before the work was undertaken.

So is that basically another case of (re)build tight & ventilate?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152221#Comment_152221 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152221#Comment_152221 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:24:52 +0100 Saint https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152244#Comment_152244 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152244#Comment_152244 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:10:41 +0100 seascape https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152248#Comment_152248 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152248#Comment_152248 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:40:18 +0100 SteamyTea https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152251#Comment_152251 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152251#Comment_152251 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:50:17 +0100 RobinB Posted By: SaintHaven't they just wrapped the building in a vapour barrier? On the cold side as well? Or am I missing something?

I just hope no-one switches off the MVHR to "save money".]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152261#Comment_152261 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152261#Comment_152261 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:30:38 +0100 Timber https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152288#Comment_152288 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152288#Comment_152288 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:58:33 +0100 tony https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152306#Comment_152306 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152306#Comment_152306 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:38:43 +0100 chuckey Frank]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152308#Comment_152308 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152308#Comment_152308 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:58:31 +0100 Timber Posted By: tonyI like insulation but I dont like the idea of taped foil on the outside of a building, reminds me of poly bags.

Agreed, but what I mentioned is fairly common practise (although done badly which might sort that issue out).]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152429#Comment_152429 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152429#Comment_152429 Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:54:50 +0100 Saint Posted By: TimberNot necessarily, it depends what insulation (if any (none I assume)) is present in the existing wall. If a solid wall, then the multifoil is the insulation, so the existing walls become warm. Just think of it as adding foil faced insulation boards onto the outside of a masonry building and then foil taping the joints. Same thing really.

Still doesn't feel quite right and with foil faced boards the taping should theoretically at least be applied to the board joints on the inside warm face of the insulation which is pretty nigh impossible not just the outer shouldn't it?
Then thinking about foil faced boards in EWI what if the inside foil face is damaged and water vapour permeates, through the damaged sections of foil or if not taped then the joints themselves, into the insulation from where it can't escape and so condenses and wets the insulation which then fails to work effectively? Can this happen?]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152444#Comment_152444 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152444#Comment_152444 Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:09:37 +0100 Timber https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152464#Comment_152464 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152464#Comment_152464 Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:13:45 +0100 mattwprice https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152541#Comment_152541 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152541#Comment_152541 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:44:17 +0100 Mike George https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152550#Comment_152550 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152550#Comment_152550 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:17:09 +0100 Saint https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152617#Comment_152617 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152617#Comment_152617 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:40:31 +0100 Mike George http://www.webdynamics.co.uk/images/TLX%20Gold%20ETA.pdf]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152625#Comment_152625 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152625#Comment_152625 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:21:36 +0100 Saint So its being tested and approved as a multilayer reflective thermal insulation and hence tested against all the standards and parameters we would expect to see but nothing specific to this application.]]> https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152626#Comment_152626 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152626#Comment_152626 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:28:33 +0100 Mike George https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152630#Comment_152630 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152630#Comment_152630 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:38:44 +0100 Saint https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152631#Comment_152631 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152631#Comment_152631 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:43:52 +0100 Mike George https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152634#Comment_152634 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152634#Comment_152634 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:19:07 +0100 Saint https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152635#Comment_152635 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152635#Comment_152635 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:11:38 +0100 fostertom https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152691#Comment_152691 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152691#Comment_152691 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:47:59 +0100 Mike George https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152692#Comment_152692 https://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9371&Focus=152692#Comment_152692 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:02:22 +0100 fostertom