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  1.  
    I've just been forwarded this:

    ''Dear Sir/Madam,

    I am writing to you from Remarkable, a television production company that's part of Endemol UK. We are best known for our innovative series including The Food Show (Channel 4), Superscrimpers (Channel 4) and Restoration Home (BBC Two) which follows private owners of crumbling historic buildings as they save them from ruin and restore them into wonderful 21st century homes.

    We have recently been commissioned to make another property series for BBC Two. This groundbreaking TV series will look at ambitious ordinary people self-building their dream home for a maximum budget of £100,000. It will challenge everything people think they know about house building today.

    Presented by architectural journalist Kieran Long, the show aims to inspire a broad church of viewers to become self-builders through the prism of an engaging observational documentary series full of heart. We will follow couples/families embarking on high stakes adventures as they attempt to build their own homes on a budget within reach of many people - for the first time on TV. Some self-builders will be entirely hands-on; others will project manage all the trades; some will bring on skilled labour when needed. All will have family and friends helping with the build and therefore keeping labour costs down.

    For two-thirds of the price of the average family home, 6 individuals will attempt to create a place that they can call their own, with all the character, architectural ambition, homeliness and decorum of houses way beyond of their price range.

    We're still looking for people embarking on ambitious self builds for under £100,000 to take part in our series. Your organisation runs courses for self builders. I'm wondering if any of your students, past or present, might be embarking on an exciting house building project in the near future? Might any of these self builders be interested in taking part in our exciting new television series?

    Any help you can give us will be very gratefully received. Please pass on my contact details to anyone you think might be able to help.

    If you have any questions please contact me on the numbers below or email me at this address.

    Yours sincerely,
    Janet Chute

    Assistant Producer
    Remarkable Television (part of Endemol UK)

    Tel: 020 8222 4063 | Mob: 07746 796200 | Email: janetDOTchute@endemolukDOTcom Shepherds Building Central | Charecroft Way | London | W14 0EE
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    A degree of scepticism has crept into some self-build oriented forums over this kind of programme because of the way they're edited to show the 'personal dramas' rather than the actual process of self-build, think 'Grand Designs' and the "Will they get the roof on before the rain comes, or will their dreams literally be washed into the footings? Come back after the break to find out."

    It'll obviously come down to what incentives are on offer, as usual.

    But if it's alright with you Nick, I'll post the letter on to other forums because you never know.
  2.  
    I agree, Joiner, but someone might be interested, at least in finding out more. Spread it as widely as you like - that goes for anyone who wants to.

    Thanks. Nick
    • CommentAuthorchriskemp
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    Having worked directly for a Ventilation supplier and now working closely with another supplier very interested in this market - I would personally be very very wary of being featured; as "car-crash-tv" makes for better viewing figures......
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    I assume the £100,000 does not include buying the land?

    The 3 plots I've looked at in the last month were priced at £225K, £315k and £325k, at those prices I don't have a hope of self building any time soon, mind you, on another property board there is talk of a price crash sometime soon - I'm not holding my breath!!
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    I would have thought that below a certain £/m^2 would have been a better measure than a total cost.
    • CommentAuthorwindy lamb
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    A few people I know who are involved in Tellyland tell me that, generally, the production companies want drama and tantrums and are not at all bothered about the real building (or whatever) process. They consider their time as precious and yours as worthless. It's not unusual to be kept hanging about all day without even being offered a coffee (unless you pay for it) and then if you complain they edit you to look a fool.
    Best avoid, your time as a self builder is too valuable to be wasted by some lovie.
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    Posted By: TriassicThe 3 plots I've looked at in the last month were priced at £225K, £315k and £325k

    The one I'm looking at is offers in excess of £25k. It's been on the market for over two years now. Bit out of the way, though, Orkney Mainland - there are cheaper plots on the outlying islands. Plots on the Scottish mainland start from about £35k in Caithness and Sutherland.

    Almost but not quite interested in this program up to reading ”an engaging observational documentary series full of heart” when I thought “reality TV” with various surrounding expletives.
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    Posted By: tonyI would have thought that below a certain £/m^2 would have been a better measure than a total cost.

    Two reasons I can see not to do that:

    (1) Ordinary people don't care how cost-effectively built the castle is - it's still not a house like theirs.

    (2) It's easier to meet specific (i.e. per-area) targets in bigger builds. A front door costs the same whether you're putting it on a 100 m² house or a 1000 m² mansion. Insulation doesn't need to be as thick on bigger builds etc.
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      CommentAuthorJSHarris
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: windy lamb</cite>A few people I know who are involved in Tellyland tell me that, generally, the production companies want drama and tantrums and are not at all bothered about the real building (or whatever) process. They consider their time as precious and yours as worthless. It's not unusual to be kept hanging about all day without even being offered a coffee (unless you pay for it) and then if you complain they edit you to look a fool.
    Best avoid, your time as a self builder is too valuable to be wasted by some lovie.</blockquote>

    As someone who's worked with TV production companies on a handful of occasions, I can wholeheartedly endorse this view!

    The world of people who appear in certain shows is fairly small, such that I've found myself appearing with people I know from non-TV related areas on several occasions. An American friend did a stint on the US version of Scrapheap Challenge (Junkyard Wars) and had the build he was overseeing sabotaged overnight by the production crew, simply to create some tension by causing hostility between the two teams (the team thought that the opposing team had been the instigators of the sabotage).

    It pays to remember that the most important people on any TV show are the production crew. Anyone appearing on TV is just fodder, to be manipulated, abused, misrepresented or whatever, in order to provide what the producer believes to be entertainment.

    Unless you have an overwhelming desire to be seen on TV (and in my view there are more negative aspects of this than you can imagine) then I'd suggest staying well clear. I deeply regret a couple of appearances I've made on TV, and even the few fairly obscure appearances still cause a bit of hassle from time to time.
    • CommentAuthorTimSmall
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    Endemol - the production company behind Big Brother...
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
     
    Not got a TV, so what you all talking about.
    We could make our own, cheap digital camera, a bit of imagination, lots of retakes and then stick it up on YouTube.

    I got an idea for a thousand pound home :wink:

    Would get Ed out of a hole
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    I hope he didn't dig it before he got the warrant. :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    :cool:
    • CommentAuthorPugliese
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    We have been approached by C4 to appear on a programme with Charlie Luxton.

    Me and SWMBO have opposing views on this but after all she is an actress, so I can see the appeal to her, but I agree with the negative sentiments posted here. Anyway for a bit of fun we went along with it and they came and filmed a 'taster tape'. On it we created friction between the two of us (came very easy to us!) - which surprise surprise went down very well. In fact they loved it so much they have put together a presentation for C4 and anticipating a positive response have already booked in the man to come and film with us for 5 hours!!!!

    Anyway, I have yet to ask the important question - how much? and will let them go to the point of no return before asking.... and if there is not at least an oak staircase in it, we walk. My gut feeling is we will be walking as they think people will do it just to be on TV. Not this one.

    One positive spin off, the various trades all have become very interested and some have even sharpened their pencil!
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      CommentAuthorJSHarris
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012 edited
     
    Don't expect to be paid much at all, if anything! The whole appeal of shows like this for production companies is that they are dirt cheap to produce, because they usually don't pay anything, other than maybe a small token payment, to non-Equity members who appear. They are also very reluctant to give you a contract, as a rule, but will probably want you to sign a disclaimer, absolving them from any responsibility should something happen as a result of the show!
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      CommentAuthorDamonHD
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    Even if you do get a contract I know from second-hand experience that terms are 'renegotiated' afterwards, and as their lawyers (and egos) are bigger than yours, you lose... You really have to be prepared to forbid them to broadcast until you are paid (and have that in writing) to keep their attention sometimes.

    Rgds

    Damon
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    Worked on a house in Telford that had featured in one of those "Rebuild Your House From Ground Up In 60 Minutes". The customer was a work colleague of my wife's and she'd asked if I could "fix" two doors in her kitchen and maybe look to see "if anything could be done" with some kitchen units.

    Yup.

    Their "fee" had been the value of the labour of the trades used on the show, all the materials they had to pay for, despite having no choice over what styles to use, all that having been decided by the "designer" used by the show.

    All looked great on camera, I don't doubt. But in real life?

    I'm surprised anyone's still taken in. It does make for good television though, much easier and cheaper than rolling a joint. :smoking:
    • CommentAuthorPugliese
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
     
    Well, just had the call - C4 loved us! that confirms it, they really have got bad taste!

    They are sending through the paperwork - that should provide a good laugh!:bigsmile:
  3.  
    A friend in Tellyland told us that it was a very very bad idea to go in for one of these shows. He said " they will make you and your wife look clueless idiots, disrupt the build, upset the trades and cost you money, please don't do it". We didn't.
  4.  
    The only one of these I was ever involved with (the couple were filmed attending a DIY SWH course I ran) fell apart in acrimony. A colleague has just been involved as a contractor in a refurb, shown last night (which I missed). I'll ask for his view.
  5.  
    Dont do it if you want a quiet life. Having appeared on "River Cottage" we now keep getting reminded every time it is repeated even from relations in Australia.
    • CommentAuthoran02ew
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2012
     
    We have signed up to a simular production on channel4 that is currently being filmed, there is an element of fun to the whole thing that we have enjoyed it so far and dispite the usual format of panic and drama only to finally have it all turn out ok in the end i am hoping for good publicity for a our building company. as the old saying no such thing as bad publicity:smile:

    However dispite what the producers tells you they do get in the way and although they only visit now and again the days they are there arnt very work productive. add to that the added preasure of deadlines and you just no they are going to drag a sound bite of you saying the floor will be tiled and glue it to another of you saying that you wanted carpet from the start:shamed:

    so if you all want a good laugh at my expense tune in next april may to a somthing called "building the dream" (i think) on channel4. ill be the one aguing with my wife over carpet or tiles
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2012
     
    I told Andy to get the family pig involved, but they went and ate it.
    • CommentAuthoran02ew
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2012
     
    Posted By: fostertomI told Andy to get the family pig involved, but they went and ate it.


    And very nice it is too.
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