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    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2012
     
    I'm in the throws of purchasing a 1930s timber bungalow.

    It looks like it has a bit of loft insulation but no insulation in the walls. The bungalow is all timber construction, weather board with plywood interior lining over timber stud frame. I was thinking about what type of insulation to use and how to get it in their? Any thoughts?
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    Triassic, can I suggest you post te pic from the other thread? I think most will suggest EWI, but I cannot remember the facade, roof oversail etc.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2012
     
    Blown in fibres for me with 100mm or more of internal sheet insulation inside that?
    • CommentAuthorTimber
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2012
     
    I would agree with blown fibre or cellulose (from the inside), then add VCL and plasterboard inside over the existing to ensure decent protection to the timber frame and improve air tightness.

    Hopefully there are battens between the cladding and the ply sheathing.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2012 edited
     
    Well we finally completed on the timber bunglow last week and with frost on the ground outside it's chuffin cold inside.

    I've shone a tourch into various voids and the wall and most of the roof are un-insulated.

    The construction is 3/4 inch weather board, tarred felt, 4 inch cavity, 1/2 fiber board internal wall covering.
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    Triassic, that is exactly the same construction as mine. Even though I'm going to demolish it eventually, I had Rockwool fibres blown in the wall and ceiling cavities. The difference in the amount of heating oil we use is very significant and the comfort is much improved.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2012 edited
     
    I'm also considering the demolition and replacement option in a few years time.

    In the meantime I'm looking for some cheap and cheerful insulation.

    However, having talked to one or two blown cavity wall insulation companies I may have missed the ‘free’ insulation boat by a few weeks.

    Out of interest how did they get round problems like noggins when blowing in the insulation and where were the injection holes located, inside or outside?

    edit - just got a call from one company to say they sill have free loft insulation available, subject to survey, so fingers crossed I might have a partly insulated home.

    Just need to consider how to get the walls insulated without too much disruption. Reading elsewhere, someone suggested a noggin finder to map out the noggins in each room (or a thermal camara?) then drill holes from the inside of the room to allow insulation to be blown in. This could work as each room needs a lick of paint, so a bit of patching up would not go amiss!
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    A 'door knocker' claimed free/cheap insulation deal had been extended to Feb. (not heard this anywhere else though)
    he was collecting details of untreated properties in the local area for the company he work for. They then pass them on to supplier. Asked him about free EWI , but no luck there as usual :)

    As to cheap insulation , local freecycle post recently was offering large amount of thin EPS sheets from packaging, so something like this might be of use. ( caution with possible fire fisk of temporary solution with EPS)
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    Triassic, to make sure all the cavities were filled, I laboriously went round locating all the noggins, some were diagonal, and then I drilled all the holes for filling. I drilled them on the outside. Then I watched them fill them. I wasn't very popular but to be fair they were here all day and I agreed to fill the holes after they went.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2012
     
    Posted By: PeterStarckI wasn't very popular but
    you got what you expected :wink:
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2012
     
    Peter, So the next question is how did you locate the noggins?

    Reason I ask is that looking at various reviews of stud finders and none get a good review, so which one is the best of the bunch?
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    Triassic, my bungalow is just a square box, no awkward additions, so probably easier than yours. I looked down the wall cavity from the loft to get an idea of the position of the studs and highest noggins. I used a stud locator which I borrowed, seemed to work ok, pretty sure it was a Stanley. The smallest cavity I found was about 18" x 18". Good luck.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2012
     
    I managed to track down a firm with a small amount of grant money left for FREE loft insulation and this will be installed next month.

    All I need is to insulate the walls - they would not, could not, rise to the challenge of blowing in rockwool into the cavity wall.

    Talking to my cousin in the America he tells me he hired a cellulose blower from Home Depot. This is what he did earlier this year when installing insulation into his timber framed house. So does anyone know where I can hire a blower?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2012
     
    Small grain blower fan will do polystyrene beads and I reckon that a 150, 200 or250mm duct fan with a 80mm hose would do fibres. Buy a fan?
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2012
     
    Posted By: TriassicTalking to my cousin in the America he tells me he hired a cellulose blower from Home Depot.

    There are a lot of suppliers of cellulose fibre in the US and they're happy with self installations of that type. AIUI, Warmcel is the only brand now available in the UK and they prefer blown insulation to be done by their agents which makes things awkward. There was a website for another brand but the company behind it was thought to be defunct.
    • CommentAuthorSteveZ
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2012
     
    This company supplies all types of insulation products, including treated cellulose loose fill

    http://www.mikewye.co.uk/naturalproducts.htm?gclid=CJboyrbHsLQCFU3HtAodHS0Aqw#celluloseinsulation
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