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    • CommentAuthorMike George
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2012 edited
     
    Has anyone any experience using Renadalath? http://www.bekaert.com/en/Product%20Catalog/Products/R/Rendalath.aspx

    Having read the BBA it appears this system can utilise a variety of insulations which can be rendered with Portland Cement rather than the EXPENSIVE acrylic renders used with other systems.

    BBA available for download here http://www.industrycortex.com/datasheets/profile/10621270/bba-certificate-96-3242-rendalath-reinforced-external-wall-

    I haven't priced the product but having used some of the systems it seems a no-brainer cost wise simply because inexpensive sand/cement/lime renders can be used. Or am I missing something?
    • CommentAuthorjamesingram
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2012 edited
     
    Had a good look at it a while back and I if I remeber correctly all in price wasn't that different from acrylic EWI sys. , though those seem to have gone up quite a bit recently
    I like the idea of the 'through colour' nature of the acrylic finished, hopefully reducing future maintenance
    ( though I usely use the 3 coat sys. so not really true single coat through colour)
    But then if you're not painting it , or going for a cast finish then this isn't an issue.
    How about weight of the finish on the thicker insulation , would this be an issue ?

    I guess not, just like the trad. expamet type mesh for rough cast over timber frame etc.
  1.  
    Thanks James.

    The cost surprises me a little, though I guess the production process and raw materials of the meshed panels outweighs the savings made on the cement render v acrylic. Another one bites the dust :(
    • CommentAuthoran02ew
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2012
     
    Looks good, particularly if you want a heavy cast finish, i find the polymer renders bit chiselled and formal, still it would have to carry a lot of weight? And that’s down to the adhesive on the insulation?
  2.  
    Its mechanically fixed as well. Approved finishes appear to be anything you like.

    I guess it may not be as user freindly as the trowel on mesh acrylic systems and its not sufficiently cheaper to warrant the extra fixing effort?
  3.  
    Worth checking the costing though Mike , before you give up on the idea . I think the pirce i was looking at was for stainless mesh , not galv , which was cheaper .
  4.  
    Yes, thanks. I would be wary of the galvanised as well having seen normal beads show rust.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2012
     
    With acrylic renders, we've abandoned the cast iron rule of ventilated space behind the render, simply because it's been done without for decades on the Continent without trouble - may even be Agremented here. But Rendalath offers no such hope, so on the face of it has to be done 'the old way', with ventilation. It's definitely a 'modernised old skool' product, not part of the new wave. That means cost and detailing, not like for like.
  5.  
    Thanks Tom,

    My reading of the BBA is that the variation used with insulation is directly fixed to the masonry with no air gap!
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2012
     
    Oh yes, as ordinary render would be - I thought you meant in the EWI-like situations we're all doing - or onto sheathed or unsheathed studwork.
    • CommentAuthorMike George
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2012 edited
     
    I thought we were talking about the same application:confused:

    As in the BBA linked above figure 2 page 42?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2012
     
    I have done several jobs 25 years+ ago with a product called twillath, very similar.

    In those days I was considered mad to be doing EWI with 75mm of fg batts. large head nylon fixings and 3 coat render, no air gap, even wood beaters top, bottom! and round openings, 3 coat render.

    No problems to this day with any of it, spring indoors arrives a month early and winter 5 or 6 weeks late.
  6.  
    We had problems with a couple of Twillath jobs, mainly I thhink due to poor render jobs and cracking letting moisture in to the insulation batts.
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