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    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    Posted By: RobLMy friend Wiki who is always right says:" a heat recovery ventilator (HRV) can only transfer sensible heat"

    Strictly, your “friend” is right, but misleadingly so. If the outgoing air is cooled to below its dew point condensation will occur. That'll convert latent heat into sensible heat. That released sensible heat can then be transferred to the incoming air.
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    Posted By: funcrusherHis working wife (with much washing from small children) was doubtful - but has found it so successful she has thrown away her tumble dryer.

    Wow, did she win Olympic gold in the shot putt?
    • CommentAuthorfuncrusher
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    Mattwardman: Please note I have mentioned more than once during the thread that adapting an existing room for dual purpose is likely to be a good option for existing homes. On new build, building costs arise and folk must spend their budget to suit their priorities. These days there is a mania for en-suit bathrooms, which are expensive luxuries. Not to mention £20,000 fitted kitchens. The ultimate waste is the frequent re-modelling kitchens and bathrooms to satisfy fads of fashion!. When I was a kid the better-off had a bathroom and a 'bath night' once a week. The majority had a tin bath in front the fire and an outside toilet.

    The irrationality of current waste is that never did so many people have jobs devoid of dirt yet never was so much daily bathing deemed essential. As to kitchens, when mothers cooked from raw ingredients 3 times a day 7 days a week for large families, the facilities were simple. Real cooking is a rare event in these luxury kitchens.

    Quite agree about high humidity and condensation in student flats. As a former student landlord I was surprised at the ignorance of these 'clever' students. The question I used to put to them was "where do you think the water goes to when you dry your clothes over the radiators". The most incredible conversation however was with a student who was convinced someone was tapping into her gas supply, and had trouble understanding how the gas meter measuring cuft became a bill in kWh. After patiently explaining the basics to her, she retorted " I know what I am talking about - we have been taught how to read a gas meter in Energy Studies"
    • CommentAuthorstones
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    We have previously built in drying cupboards, usually housing the boiler with an extract vent from the MVHR to take away the damp air. Always worked a treat, drying clothes overnight. Not having a boiler, it takes a bit longer to dry things indoors now. We mainly rely on an outdoor covered washing line / hanger (Carport). Again drys clothes very well down to around 0 C outdoor temp. Interesting use of a dehumidifier and a method I would like to experiment with...
    • CommentAuthorqeipl
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    When I built my house I installed my exhaust air source heat pump in a cupboard in the utility room which has a pulley and other rails for hanging washing. I was hoping that it would be a viable alternative to playing roulette with the weather. It works better than I ever imagined. The heat pump dehumidifies the utility room (and the shower rooms), captures most of the energy that's used in the drying process and deposits it back in the hot water cylinder.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2012
     
    Posted By: funcrusherwe have been taught how to read a gas meter in Energy Studies"

    3 years doing a BSc in Renewable Energy and never once were we shown a utility bill, so she was better off than most.
    Mat eof mine had to do a 'microteach' as part of his PGCE, he got the class to look at a collection of my electrical bills and work out how much energy I used a week. They were amazed how the units where split up between night and day and how there were different rates for the amounts used. One bill had 8 different tariffs on it, another had a meter change. Some had meter rental, other did not. Most of his class (all Degree educated) really struggled with it but all 'knew' that it was too expensive. He then explained that we had some of the cheapest energy in Europe.
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