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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2012
     
    Right, probably why I missed it on the 4OD player, kept locking up and I can't bare the thought of sitting through the adds ever again, as if I care about washing powder.
    • CommentAuthorCav8andrew
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2012
     
    It seems possible to skip everything but the interminable adverts. I even noticed, though I suspect everyone else is aware of it, that when you pause the action an advert appears suggesting you have gone to make a particular brand of tea, which thinking about it, in your case ST, might be true !
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2012
     
    :wink:
    Cost me a fortune that did
    • CommentAuthorCav8andrew
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2012
     
    It's the subliminal message ! I am not a number, must resist.
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      CommentAuthorikimiki
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    Those screw-pile foundations seem interesting. Are they a tried-and-true solution from some other country, or perhaps a non-domestic application?
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    I like then too, but would not work here, 6 inches down and it is rock.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    Then you don't need founds at all
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      CommentAuthorikimiki
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    It would seem that fostertom is right, SteamyTea. :-)

    Mastery of the obvious is an under-appreciated skill.
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    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: ikimiki</cite>Those screw-pile foundations seem interesting. Are they a tried-and-true solution from some other country, or perhaps a non-domestic application?</blockquote>

    We use them here in Canada a lot - they're much better than sona-tube (concrete cylinder) foundations and are much faster to install. We used them on the wrap-around porch of our country house - the length of the piles chosen was such that the helical screw part would be below the frost line.

    These are the type we used: http://www.postech-foundations.com/

    There's a UK company that does them: http://www.screwfast.com/

    Paul in Montreal.
    • CommentAuthorMikeRumney
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    First off,
    anyone wonder why they made up six sided boxes as opposed to five sided?
    Just thought maybe they got "distracted" by the on-site-innovation" aspect and didn't consider ways of reducing their materials.
    Could be of course that they req'd approx 36mm dividers? or wanted to increase their thermal bridges!

    Secondly,
    It looked as if they were rendering directly onto Tyvek ???
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    I was going to start a topic called "Brickbat of the Week" for Channel4 and Facit! :devil:

    The Channel4 site lists episode 1 correctly but doesn't list episode 2 (the one we're talking about, I believe, I don't know where #4 comes from, Ted?)

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/grand-designs/episode-guide/series-8

    Plus they don't have an email address to tell them! Not that we should need to. Don't they look at their own website?

    I first came across Facit a few years ago at Ecobuild - it's an interesting concept. Their website then was dreadful and I told them exactly why. It's now completely different but still unusable! But they aren't architects - they're industrial designers. It's obviously a "design led" website - functionality can go hang.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    This programme is Series 7 Episode 4 according to this http://www.channel4.com/programmes/grand-designs/episode-guide/series-7/episode-4

    Scroll down for the comments - which includes some replies from Bruce at Facit Homes.
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      CommentAuthorjoe90
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012 edited
     
    Posted By: MikeRumney

    It looked as if they were rendering directly onto Tyvek ???


    They did not mention it but I "think" I saw them render onto fibreboard of some description.
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    Posted By: tedThis programme is Series 7 Episode 4 according to thishttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/grand-designs/episode-guide/series-7/episode-4" >http://www.channel4.com/programmes/grand-designs/episode-guide/series-7/episode-4

    Thanks for the link Ted. Pity that is listed as episode 4 of series 7 when the current series is series 8 and it was the second episode! :cry:
    • CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2012
     
    ikimiki asked: "Those screw-pile foundations seem interesting. Are they a tried-and-true solution from some other country, or perhaps a non-domestic application?"

    As well as the firm Paul mentioned there are at least a couple of others:

    http://www.gtl-partnership.com/screwpiles.php
    http://www.abcanchors.co.uk/

    They provide some history. Apparently screwpiling started in the 1830s.
    • CommentAuthornikhoward
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    And I would like to ask - why did they not have a 40 foot shipping container rather than a 20? They then could have had a dry assembley area attached to their onsite 'factory' (a CNC machine).

    And why did they not put breather membrane on ASAP to stop it all getting wet?

    But nice to see something inovative
    • CommentAuthornikhoward
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Oh, also they could build a few boxes stuck together in factory to keep it dry to assemble on site? But that would be a sips though. :wink:
    • CommentAuthorCav8andrew
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012 edited
     
    With you nik, it's good to see some innovative thinking and practice, but when they appear to be able to machine to 0.5 mm tolerances to then leave units exposed to the elements seems crazy. I also cant help thinking that with a pile of OSB3 and 300 mm deep I beams you could achieve a similar outcome with less cold bridging and materials. I think it something to do with the process being like giant Lego that makes it so appealing.
    • CommentAuthornikhoward
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Posted By: Cav8andrewWith you nik, it's good to see some innovative thinking and practice, but when they appear to be able to machine to 0.5 mm tolerances to then leave units exposed to the elements seems crazy. I also cant help thinking that with a pile of OSB3 and 300 mm deep I beams you could achieve a similar outcome with less cold bridging and materials. I think it something to do with the process being like giant Lego that makes it so appealing.


    My six year is quite good with Lego and while he freestyles a lot can quite happily follow the plans to the letter to produce a stunning building/(plane/tank/robot/car), unlike some builders. I think he also has more site experience than the 'artists':surfing:
    • CommentAuthornikhoward
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    I also like screw piles
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Still unanswered:
    Posted By: PaulJI don't think any of the providers give cover for helical screw piles
    I never knew that. What's wrong wiv em? If calc'd by Engineer?
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      CommentAuthorjoe90
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Question, What is the expected life of galvanised steel in the ground?
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    Posted By: joe90Question, What is the expected life of galvanised steel in the ground?


    Centuries. Don't forget that regular steel piles are just steel. Rust needs air to form.

    Paul in Montreal.
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      CommentAuthorikimiki
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Those helical screw piles seem like the most environmentally friendly substitute for a concrete foundation I've come across thus far.

    And, given that the UK is so *wet*, I find the idea of elevating the house above ground level to be quite sensible in itself.
    • CommentAuthorCav8andrew
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    I think the use of helical coils is common in the construction of track side paraphernalia, gantries etc. At least when I looked at them for our build a lot of the examples seemed to be for that type of application. I think the idea of lightly touching the ground is a great concept for a building and would be tempted to try on a completely new build. Unfortunately in our situation they were not suitable and we ended up with 6/7 m deep concrete piles, not quite what I had in mind !
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    A minor advantage of helical screws might be that you don't have to dig a hole and therefore have a lower risk of finding any archaeology.
    • CommentAuthorCav8andrew
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Image of Harold with a helical coil to the eye come to mind.
    • CommentAuthorPaulJ
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Screw piles for housing are no good for building regs or NHBC.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    I was concerned about the application of black jack to the main beams that were held by the screw piles.
    • CommentAuthornikhoward
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2012
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: PaulJ</cite>Screw piles for housing are no good for building regs or NHBC.</blockquote>

    Why not, surely they must be passed by a BCO. Not sure if they are BBA cert?
   
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