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    • CommentAuthordovecote
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Looking for advice on caring for Iroko windows - some say Iroko does not necessarily need any additional protection beyond its own natural oils and will weather naturally.

    Originally I was under the impression that all I needed to do was lightly oil the Iroko once a year and that a suitable product could be applied with a cloth. But now I have also been recommended products such as Osmo UV clear protection and Deks Olje that need applying before installation and top up with a brush.

    Has anyone been down this path?

    Thanks

    Dovecote
    • CommentAuthorwindy lamb
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    We have Iroko windows. Before fitting my wife coated each with 3 coats of stain/protection can't remember what (that was 10 years ago) but we've had to do then each year since! My point is wood needs looking after whatever coating you use.
    • CommentAuthorqeipl
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012 edited
     
    I've used iroko for boats and gates. Very strong and durable. Heartwood will last forever untreated. Sapwoood is prone to rot. Not great at holding onto coatings.

    If you want to keep it shiny use high quality marine varnish or Deks Ojle and be prepared to redo to a lesser or greater extent every year.

    Alternative would be a teak oil that you can redo a couple of times a year to keep it clean. Oil attracts dirt which can make the finish very dark (like black) over time.

    Whatever you do, if you don't maintain it regularly you'll get flaking varnish or streaks of grey/black.

    If you like grey weathered wood, I'd recommend not using any coatings or oil.
    If it gets dirty you can bleach and scrub and it'll come up nice again.
    • CommentAuthordovecote
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012
     
    Thanks Windy Lamb & Qeipl

    I am interested in the idea of doing nothing and letting it weather to grey on the outside. Couple of questions in that regard:

    - Windy Lamb: are you saying that some (outer) parts of Iroko might rot?

    - Qeipl: what about the internal face - can I leave that untreated as well?


    I had also been wondering about my options for oiling now and varnishing / staining in later years
    • CommentAuthorqeipl
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2012 edited
     
    Dovecote,

    In my experience iroko heartwood is very resistant to rot, but sapwood is very prone to rot. The two are usually easy to distinguish as the sapwood is much lighter in colour and softer to the thumbnail.
    If you keep the heartwood clear of vegetation (mould, lichen, etc.) it should last as long as the rest of the house.

    You can leave the internal face untreated but it might be inclined to pick up and hold onto dirt. I've used water-based varnish on iroko internally with good results. You could apply two (or maybe three) coats of matt, sanding between coats (220 then 400 paper). This will seal the wood and make it easier to keep clean without creating a 'varnished' look.

    If you oil now (teak oil or Deks) you might have difficulty varnishing later.
    If you varnish now and it flakes you'll have a tedious stripping/sanding job.
    If you leave it natural and then don't like the grey you'll have a tedious bleaching/sanding job.

    Wooden windows are lovely on the inside but a pain in the arse on the outside.
    I fitted Veluxes (on the vertical) to my house because they have aluminium flashings on the outside.
    • CommentAuthorfuncrusher
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2012
     
    I've used iroko externally for over 30 years. I have windows installed over 20 years in a damp climate. Never painted /varnished. Iroko can be prone to warping, but heartwood is virtually rot-proof without treatment. Weathers to silver-grey if in exposed location. Grain may open up a little on exposed cills. My windows were built to my own design with DG fitted from the inside with an internal retaining bead. Not sure how well iroko works with traditional putty or external beads, but I'm doubtful.
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    My limited experience with iroko is from some 25 years ago when I purchased a plank about 30 inches wide for a work surface, the left over off cut is about 3 ft long, so that is a piece about 2 ft 6in x 3 ft, it looks to be heart wood, is 2 1/2 in thick and has been kicking around since I got it in various storage places and for the last 10 years has been in a damp cellar which has had the occasional flood. To date there is no sign of rot, splitting or warping

    So IMO the wood does not need any treatment - but if you do treat it then you will be into the cycle of repairing the treatment as required
    • CommentAuthordovecote
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2012
     
    Thanks all for your comments

    Having talked it over with the Joiner some more I am going to go with a clear Danish oil at point of manufacture and then top up as needed. It seems an issue with new windows is if they accidently get some render on them from the rest of the build the spot can go black and the oil helps avoid this.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2012
     
    I had never heard of it, so looked it up on the font of all knowlwdge:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroko

    Just don't cut it down yourself (though that may be connected to a later bit about sanding):wink:
    • CommentAuthorfuncrusher
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2012
     
    Dovecote: Investigate possibility of adverse reaction between Danish oil (or any treatment) and any sealant used with the glazing.
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