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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2012 edited
     
    Is the poor air quality in you town killing you too young?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuVUYJrXd50

    It is worth watching!
    • CommentAuthorSeret
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2012
     
    Yes, of course it is. That's pretty much the definition of "poor air quality".
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    Air quality relative to what ? Over the last fifty years what does the graph look like ?
    • CommentAuthorSeret
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2012
     
    Last 150 maybe? You'd certainly see the pollutants change.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
     
    Ian Mudway crops up all the time in the research, was hobnobbing with one of his peers yesterday.
    I would like to find info on other areas to get a better baseline, say rural and coastal, South, West and East coasts (shall ask the AQU down here what they have).
    Has anyone sent this link to everyone in government that is involved with the RHI, it is not all about CO2 (think you had a thread on that once Tony).
    • CommentAuthorSeret
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
     
    Posted By: SteamyTeait is not all about CO2


    Indeed, hence why we have CO2e, but even that's an imperfect measure. It can be difficult to quantify the various negative impacts. For example, some on this forum advocate shifting as much of your electricity use to the wee hours as possible to reduce carbon emissions, but how do you weigh the impact of the increased actinide production against the reduced carbon emissions? And do you include all external costs in your impact metric, or just GWP?
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
     
    "actinide" great term, had to look it up :bigsmile:

    Maybe the measure should be 'impact on life', the least damage/end of life it causes the better it is, but then you have the problem of valuing life, is mine worth more than yours, or a wasps or slugs or the 90% that we have not discovered and classified yet. Or how about unborn life, just how responsible are we for future generations that may not exist.
    • CommentAuthorSeret
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
     
    Exactly, where does it end? Putting numbers on these things is a job for an actuary really.

    Some external impacts you can measure (coal > NOx/SO2 > acid rain > lost revenues in forestry) but some are a bit more nebulous. Things like high-level nuclear wastes are a problem. Nobody knows how much it'll cost to deal with them, because nobody's ever done it. I think we're in a slightly better place with air quality than that, but there's still some uncertainty about the exact impact of particulates IIRC. Plus we keep inventing new things that we have no idea of the long-term risks of (anybody know what happens when you breathe in nanotubes or graphene?)
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
     
    Posted By: Seretanybody know what happens when you breathe in nanotubes or graphene?
    Or rub it on your skin to stop UV damage:cool:
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    These links contain information on anticipated reduction in life expectancy due to degradation of air quality.
    http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/78657/E88189.pdf

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:uu8VOxa-oFMJ:www.oecd.org/dataoecd/32/41/2053990.pdf+NOX+GHG+impact&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjVGKDw2cPCkWG5bt8YiVviqEWbpixZDQ9JpH7PnsYc09j3X304vPmFiWH858hTCk8Fx2-1_H5t7iVaECR2UV3WFajG1Gpm-VPFT7dsWk7-JJ0i9nciNmYHXSaCW-06ZdmYBvcV&sig=AHIEtbT3AKK7xWAU9ZqO2xqQgiEee47ZUA
    The reports also detail variation in impact cost based on location of pollution source in the UK and that the value of statistical life (VOSL) confirms the deaths for younger people are valued far more than the older generation.
    The reports indicate the pollution sources creating major input to air quality degradation and these surely warrant serious scrutiny to ensure hazardous pollution abatement in order to minimise impact on all from infants to elderly. It can be done but needs the will to do it.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2013
     
    Not a fan of this program
    But it shows that air pollution is hitting mainstream TV

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01s7twg/Bang_Goes_the_Theory_Series_7_Episode_8/
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