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Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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  1.  
    Hi - I'm wondering what you think about pre fab Yurts - specifically from places like yurtworks.com

    I appricate that although they are a tradional, ethnic design - this company is based in the US (so lots of transport miles), however once built - my idea is to run them off the grid with the aid of solar and wind, a wood burning stove and boiler. Also straw bale walls placed internally and lime plaster and possibly a grey water system.

    Firstly what do you think about the products?

    and do the green features Im hoping to install out weight the miles it will of travelled originally?
    (I think so - Consider that the Scampi you buy in super markets has been shipped to Thailand and back just to be peeled! - Its friendly than getting a machine to do it here! - apparently)
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
     
    I thought they were Mongolian! Let the ones in the US stay there build from local materials here, it is ungreen to ship stuff that many miles.
    • CommentAuthorStuartB
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
     
    Nice buildings and funky to live in. How do you expect to get planning for these in the UK? Also if you are off grid what will you do for electricity in the winter when there is no sun for a week and insufficient wind? Shipping costs will be massive - better to source wood here.
    • CommentAuthorbiffvernon
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
     
    Here's my yurt http://www.biffvernon.freeserve.co.uk/the_yurt.htm made in England from English stuff. Can't see how straw bales and lime plaster would work - it wouldn't be a yurt anymore, like you couldn't roll up the walls, put them on the back of your yack and ride off across the steppe.
    • CommentAuthorben_azo
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
     
    The yurtworks product looks great , but you do not specify the size of building you consider.
    All yurts are prefab especialy the classic ones , some hard sided yurttype buildings retain
    that movability giving more freedom to its owner .
    A strawbale roundhouse sure will be a lot cheaper and easyer to build .
    Straw on the exterior for insulation and heat retaining materials on the inside.
    A tatch covered roundhouse sure will integrate nicer in the UK landscape and will
    easely get a building permit , so you could consider a strawbale roundhouse :-)
    An easy to build cheap alternative can make it easyer to turn a dream project into reality
    • CommentAuthorben_azo
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
     
    Round building , Dome or Zome Strawbale is hard to beat in form and or design freedom
  2.  
    Thanks - I'll be a bit clearer, this is perminant structure which me and my family (2 kids + Misses) live in for the next however many years.

    So were talking a pretty big, 4 bedroom place. Im looking at slight modifications on the Siuslaw design from yurtworks.com. http://yurtworks.com/Models-Series.asp?ModelID=8 1939square feet inside.

    I hoped planning permission would be no different from a normal house, but I will be making informal enquires in January. Ofcourse, dont have any land in mind yet.

    So are you all saying it would be cheaper to get an architect to design a yurt and use local materials? Cost of the yurt from yurtworks looks to be about £30k (before shipping - £2k? No idea) Plus then you need a NHBC builder (i assume) and that just the structure. Needs internal walls, plumbing, electrics etc - although Id hope to do alot of this myself. Id preer to do this - but Its simple and straight forward to buy one of theres ready done.

    Theres also the problem of mortgage. Unsure what self build mortgages would think of it as it would go up in about 7 days. Might be better to take a short term loan from family and then mortgage on the finished structure.
    Hmmm..?
    • CommentAuthorbiffvernon
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2007
     
    There's no accounting for the good folk of Oregon, but that is definitely not a yurt, nor would anything that required an architect.
    •  
      CommentAuthorrichy
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2007
     
    The way to go would be to get someone fairly local to stick build it. I can't imagine your £30k will buy a kit including everything to satisfy a LBI an there are bound to be other major costs, so I reckon it could be done without the kit for the same cost.
    • CommentAuthorben_azo
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2007
     
    A visit to a local Green Architect sure would help you a lot .
    You are the one to fix the design goal ,
    the budget being a major factor .
    • CommentAuthorhowdytom
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2007
     
    snitcherwitcher,
    have you tried "wildwood joinery" they are based in cumbria use local timber and have yurts upto 40ft diameter, a bit engineered in design, ie planed profiles etc. try a web search. if you cant find them e-mail me and I'll do some digging !.
    tom
    • CommentAuthorbiffvernon
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2007
     
    Wildwood Joinery
    Mint Cottage
    Gilthwaiterigg Lane
    Kendal
    Cumbria
    LA9 6NT

    Contact Details
    Tel: 01931 712804
    Fax: 01931 712804
    • CommentAuthorhowdytom
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2007
     
    http://www.wildwoodcumbria.com/index.htm
    and this is there web site
    tom
  3.  
    Thanks for your comments everyone, however, I should clarify - When I say yurt, I guess I dont actually mean yurt - I mean a house thats round. 2 Stories, plumbing, internal walls, stairs, solid floor - not a tent. As much as I would actually like to, I'm not in a position to live in a real yurt. Im looking at either a flat pack yurt - from yurtworks.com or hiring an architecht and designing my own.

    As always the costs are the limitiing factor - Im still wondering if it would be cheaper to byu from the US (Bad Bad Bad) or to designed locally.
    • CommentAuthorhowdytom
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2008
     
    I know a couple that bought 40ft yurt (canvas type) then used straw bales around the outside, put marine ply on the roof+DPM and 100mm ESP+ply on the floor, Its a fantastic space, they have partitions for bedrooms, kitchen etc.
    they recon it cost them £15000 fitted out inc. labour.
    tom
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