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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:18:13 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Sprocket</author>
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			<![CDATA[... for a few of these?<br /><br /><a href="http://eetimes.com/electronics-news/4412642/IBM-Airlight-boost-solar-energy-10X" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://eetimes.com/electronics-news/4412642/IBM-Airlight-boost-solar-energy-10X</a><br /><br />Though, am I missing something?<br />Don't you think they sound a bit big for 25kW?<br /><br />25kW of regular 20% efficient PV isn't all that large.<br /><br />So with micro-fluidic cooling and 80% efficient triple-junction PV cells I would expect to get 25kW from something more like the size of a suitcase.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:48:08 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[May be waiting a while for a clear day.  You ever seen St. Just?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:25:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Ed Davies</author>
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			<![CDATA[Yes, sounds about the same efficiency as normal PV. Only advantage I can see is that it's probably lighter if you want to make the thing track. Can't imagine the costs are much different.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:04:24 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[I think the cost is the whole point, isn't it? It uses a lot less actual PV cell area than regular panels and the rest is mirrors so it should be possible to make it a lot cheaper. And it collects the waste heat as an extra income stream.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:24:57 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Ed Davies</author>
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			<![CDATA[Dunno, never built one but a steerable 50 foot dish for less than, say, Â£40k (guesstimated installed cost of a bit more than 25 kW of ground-mounted PV)?]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:55:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jms452</author>
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			<![CDATA[80% = 30% electrical and 50% thermal<br /><br />'the cost of commercial dishes should drop to about $250 per square meter--three-times lower that existing photovoltaic concentrators today, according to IBM.'<br /><br />Compared to basic silicon PV at ~$150/m2 @15% this is slightly cheaper and you get the heat for free!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:35:39 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>chuckey</author>
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			<![CDATA[&quot;of high-concentration photovoltaic cells by as much as 10-times by using micro-fluidic water&quot;  . So 10 X 20% = 200% efficiency?<br />    So water cooled PV, so thats a pump, super pure water +anti freeze, heat exchanger - Do I need  more heat in the summer? or some other way of keeping the cooling water cool. Not going to  be used in the home,  never. I doubt if it will be used in this country except for a few very specialized areas - Tomato growing in Guernsey?  Might be some other spin offs from this project that could be useful.<br />      Frank]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:26:32 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Ed Davies</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: chuckey</cite>"of high-concentration photovoltaic cells by as much as 10-times by using micro-fluidic water"  . So 10 X 20% = 200% efficiency?</blockquote>No, 10 times the output. Since the input is increased (by an only vaguely specified amount from 300 to 500 up to 2000 to 5000 concentration) by using a bigger dish or focusing the light more tightly the change in efficiency, if any, is also not specified.]]>
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