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    • CommentAuthorkebabman
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
     
    Can anyone help me with their own examples of costings for the removal of a ground floor load bearing wall and replacement with a universal beam so that I can have some idea of a ball park figure. If you could detail length of opening, beam dimensions, the type of construction above, whether a builder did all the work, how much structural engineers fees were, how long the job took etc
    Many thanks
  1.  
    Can you provide details of the size of the opening, wall construction etc? I'm assuming you about to undertake this kind of work?
  2.  
    I did one late last year and charged £714+VAT for supporting, removing (very tenacious) wall, 300 x 112 x c4.3m RSJ. Struct eng charged about £200. The job was part of a bigger one, but that bit took about 2-3 days. In retrospect I think I should have charged more!
    • CommentAuthorkebabman
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    I have viewed several houses where the hall is wider than necessary and the adjoining living area could do with being larger. So I was interested in getting a rough idea of how much it would be to remove the solid sounding wall between the hall and living room which I am assuming would be brick. The spans are between 4.3m and 5m I realise that I am asking the impossible but I have no idea if the work would cost nearer to £2k or £5k and thought that some actual costs from forum members could only help me to get a clearer idea of the likely figure.
    Nick, many thanks for your reply, your rsj length is just the length required in one of the properties but as you say you probably got a bargain, perhaps I should budget for double your figure.
    Thanks again for the replies
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    As well as an RSJ, you should consider using a standard steel box lintel available from any builders merchants (might have to be ordered for a longish span). If the loading conditions are fairly standard you won't need engineers calculations so even though the lintel will cost more than the steel, the job might cost less overall and will be easier to organise. You can also dab plasterboard or even render directly onto a steel lintel whereas an RSJ will require some boxing in. The lintel manufacturers will advise on suitable products and end bearings etc. I always go for a lintel rather than a RSJ where I can (they are lighter for starters...).

    I recently bought a lintel for that span from the Builder Center (is was for 9" solid wall) and it came to less than £200 which surprised me (I had thought it would be more). I guess as the cost of steel rises the differential between RSJs and lintels might narrow as lintels are lighter and therefore must have less metal in them.
    • CommentAuthorkebabman
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Chris W,
    many thanks for the reply, as you say your lintel seeks very good value,
    thats some really useful info which is helping me get a more accurate idea of costs,
    cheers
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
     
    Plenty of the time the wall you are thinking of having down is a non load bearing one ( no floor load on it and no wall above it at all ).

    If this is the case then it will be relatively cheap and no engineer needed or building control. Make very sure first though!
    • CommentAuthorTheDoctor
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008
     
    the engineer is the key.
    he should be able to give you some advice and a guide to a fee before you need to commit anything.

    it is not just loadbearing that is the issue.
    Depending on the house design / age / construction / layout, internal walls often provide lateral restraint / bracing to the building.

    Design advice for this type of thing should not really be sought on here, and costs should have a huge health warning, as there are so many variables.
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