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    • CommentAuthorWeeBeastie
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    Hello, I'd appreciate any opinions on the following two options regarding noise levels in an open plan living/dining/kitchen set-up:

    1. Separate fridge and freezer (undercounter models) - say each is 40 decibels
    2. Combined fridge-freezer (usual tower style) - one compressor, say also 40 decibels.

    Now, I know that the compressors do not run all the time, and in Option 1 they won't necessarily run at the same time! But if they do run at the same time, is the noise level calculated simply by adding 40 + 40 = 80? That's the level of the 'dial tone of telephone', or 'chamber music in small auditorium' (according to hearnet.com) - which seems very loud. Or is it not a straightforward addition?

    I currently have a separate kitchen with a very loud whiny old fridge (poor seals), and a newer small freezer, which I never seem to hear. In the past I've also had a brand new Siemens fridge-freezer which had an annoyingly loud whine despite lots of air circulation.
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      CommentAuthornigel
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    Doubling the sound level equates roughly to an increase of 10db so 40 would be become 50db.

    We have a SMEG fridge freezer and its barely audible even when first switched on.
    • CommentAuthorWeeBeastie
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    Thanks, Nigel. That's a big help in making a decision.
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    There's all the complications with pressure vs power vs intensity and things but isn't, for simple ratios, doubling roughly a 3 db increase and 10 db is a 10 times increase?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    Unlikely to both be running at the same time, also som muffling for under counter,

    All we ever hear are clicks as they switch on or off
    • CommentAuthorbillt
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2015
     
    10 dB is a 10x increase in power, but is perceived as a doubling in loudness.

    Personally, I wouldn't have either of them in a living area, the noise would be annoying especially as it's discontinuous.
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2015
     
    Subjectively the fridge-freezer is one of the quietest pieces of equipment in our kitchen. In approximate order from loudest to quietest:

    Coffee grinder > citrus juicer > kettle > cooker hood > oven > microwave > fridge-freezer > dishwasher

    I know the louder devices are likely to operate for much shorter periods, but they are a lot more disruptive when they do. Not that I wouldn't like to have a really quiet fridge - but it seems to me that noise is a fact of life in open plan kitchen living areas.
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeSep 2nd 2015
     
    Posted By: billt10 dB is a 10x increase in power, but is perceived as a doubling in loudness.
    Right, so if we assume that a 40 db fridge and 40 db freezer running together output twice as much sound power as either on their own then the combination would be 43 db power which is the place in the table of perceived loudnesses that WeeBeastie should be looking at?

    That's below the level that the chart http://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_trivia.shtml shows, because they're mostly interested in hearing damage.
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