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    • CommentAuthorRigmarole
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2025 edited
     
    Hello all,

    I'm on the hunt for some high-performance bifold windows for our build. I'm particularly interested in options that offer secure ventilation for cross-ventilation, like a tilt-turn section, top-hung section, or any other innovative solution that allows for ventilation without fully opening the windows.

    This window is for a dormer in a warm roof. The build is mostly completed but still in progress, featuring 200mm of external insulation (including dormers) and 150mm of internal Rockwool, achieving a a U-value of around 0.096 W/(m²K). I'm aiming for high-performance windows, but I'm open to some compromise for added functionality.

    I've been meaning to share the progress of our build here, as I've used a lot of ideas and solutions from the greenbuildingforum (and come up with some of my own, for better or worse), and I will do so once time allows! This forum has been a valuable resource.

    Here's what I've looked into so far regarding window manufacturers:

    Solarlux Highline: They seem quite pricey and haven’t been provided with any drawings despite a lot of time passing, but they assure me they can configure a tilt-turn on one side of the bifold setup. Contact has unfortunately gone quiet after I questioned their “time limited price” option (didn’t want the added pressure). U-value > 0.8 W/(m²K).

    Alumil Smartia MF65: They say they can do a similar setup to Solarlux, but unfortunately, communication with their reseller has been an issue following the first quote, despite being initially very helpful. U-value = 1.1 W/(m²K).

    Lacuna: I've just recently been in (indirect) contact with them after feeling like I’ve exhausted the above options. They seem to offer this solution—see this promising video: Lacuna Video >>> https://youtu.be/NX1yDLQYQgo?si=5tUMo1wrid9BDKtl&t=34

    U-values seem to range from of 0.6 W/(m²K) to 0.85 W/(m²K), but not sure where suggestion will fall.

    Sunflex: Their SF75 Triple Glazed 3+1 can be vented, which is great, but the venting is achieved by "shunting" the windows out slightly. Good, but I would have preferred a tilt-turn section for maximum ventilation when needed. U-value = 0.8 W/(m²K).

    If anyone has any more suggestions to explore, that’d be great. Architecturally, the view from the dormer window is very much a "picture window," so a bifold feels like the best way to achieve the best blend of inside/outside experience…but they’re proving difficult!

    Thank you!
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2025
     
    Posted By: RigmaroleI'm on the hunt for some high-performance bifold windows for our build.
    I don't understand how you would use bifold doors on a dormer? I expect I've misunderstood something.

    Traditionally, bifolds were avoided on thermally efficient builds because they rely on sliding seals that are not very efficient, but maybe things have improved?
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2025
     
    I've seen bifold systems used as windows but only in GF applications. In a long dormer there is always going to be a issue cleaning at least one outside pane,-- I think.
    • CommentAuthorRigmarole
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2025 edited
     
    Posted By: djhI don't understand how you would use bifold doors on a dormer?
    So warmer days, when fully open, I wanted to achieve a panoramic view & (cross) ventilation, unobstructed by mullions. So purely an architectural/design decision, not for access. I’ve seen similar things in cafes/commercial buildings, not so much domestic.

    Posted By: djhTraditionally, bifolds were avoided on thermally efficient builds because they rely on sliding seals that are not very efficient, but maybe things have improved?
    Thank you, that’s worth considering. I’m not sure.

    Posted By: owlmanIn a long dormer there is always going to be a issue cleaning at least one outside pane
    Valid point. Though fortunately I do have some degree of access via a small section of flat roof, so it shouldn’t be impossible. The dormer is slightly recessed/inset.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2025
     
    Posted By: RigmaroleSo warmer days, when fully open, I wanted to achieve a panoramic view & (cross) ventilation, unobstructed by mullions. So purely an architectural/design decision, not for access. I’ve seen similar things in cafes/commercial buildings, not so much domestic.
    Have you a photo of the kind of thing you're thinking of? I just don't understand at all what you're thinking of.
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2025 edited
     
    If the top and base of the dormer opening is bog standard construction timber it could present movement problems. Bifolds need stable rigid fixings.
    If it were mine I'd use Glulam if timber, or a steel lintel. Similar for base.
    • CommentAuthorRigmarole
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2025
     
    A quick update: I think I have found a way forward with this by way of Lacuna (a timber bifold door/window system). Their representative in the UK has been the most helpful, technically, out of all manufacturers contacted.

    I am just conducting my own deflection test, at the moment, on our (possibly over-engineered) timber lintels (2x 165mm x 75mm, C24, nail laminated for a max span of 2900mm). They require max static deflection of 3mm and require the lintel to be able to carry 100kg per linear meter (though ours is less… as the windows are much smaller lighter)… so we want to be sure nothing will move significantly.

    I am hoping not using Glulam (for dimensional stability), won’t be an issue, but it’s too late to change now.

    Will update images when I we get and fit them and of my self tested static deflection rig!
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2025
     
    Looks like a good product; well found! Their website covers a lot of things and provides links to certificates, but they seem a bit coy about airtightness. So I'd check that very carefully with them and get a copy of whatever certificates they have. The usual caveats about ordering windows apply - double check absolutely everything: sizes, whether drawings are viewed from inside or outside, costs, etc etc.

    Looking at their contact page I see they have a few distributors in various places, and then they have their own office, which is shown on a map as being at a Macdonalds somewhere in southern Scotland, but the address is listed as in East Anglia, quite near to me. The address seems to be an accounting firm though. So I'd check their actual presence and locations very carefully to make sure I understood their operations before I did any business with them.
    • CommentAuthorRigmarole
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2025
     
    Posted By: djh… very carefully to make sure I understood their operations before I did any business with them.


    All good advice, thanks ever so much!
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