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Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthormattp
    • CommentTime1 day ago edited
     
    I have a bay window in my front room and it has a cavity above it, which is connected to the cavity of the cavity walls either side. Unfortunately it is also completely open to the cavity between the ceiling and the floor of the room above and I am wondering how I might seal it.

    The cavity above the window has some sort of membrane on the external side. On the other side of that is pebble dash render. It is supported on a timber frame and it is tied into the external skin of the cavity wall either side and on top of this frame is the bay window of the room above. It is completely open to the void under the floor of the room above, but there is a block wall built on top of the floorboards in the room above, which is tied into the inner skin of the cavity wall either side and supports the window ledge for the room above.

    I am thinking of cutting out squares of plasterboard the right size and foaming them into position, then foaming round all the gaps to close the first floor cavity. There are also a couple of joists that go into the brickwork of the outer layer of bricks, so I was thinking of sealing these too, maybe with the same foam. Is this a good approach?

    I am thinking of using one of these two foams:

    https://www.toolstation.com/soudal-flexible-expanding-foam/p69089

    https://www.toolstation.com/soudal-flexible-expanding-foam/p69089

    I will attach 2 or 3 photos so you can see what I am talking about. Thanks.
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    • CommentAuthormattp
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    A close up showing the cavity wall (it is filled with insulation)
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    • CommentAuthormattp
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    One of the joists going into the wall.
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    • CommentAuthorLF
    • CommentTime18 hours ago
     
    I found this foam excellent in my recent renovations, very controllable and will stick/seal plasterboard and insulation.

    I can't quite picture what you are doing here. my instinct says (celotex type) insulation 2 inches from the membrane to allow for moisture issues and cold outside. The insulation layer would also seal from outside drafts.

    Keep spray foam 2 inches away from the felt/membrane/ cold area
    If you are not needing flexible foam then some cheaper spray foam may work for big voids on the inside. This blue stuff might be overkill for that.

    Seal off the brick wall hole and insulate all those parts too

    I would be doing the room above at the same time and making it all warm. It has made a big difference on my house that is similar. I wished I had put more insulation (2inch) in upstairs before plasterboarding.

    You are looking (in principle) for continuous insulation layer to stop any heat leaks and get most benefit.
    • CommentAuthormattp
    • CommentTime12 hours ago
     
    Thanks, it's useful to know that the foam will stick plasterboard and PIR boards. I mistakenly linked twice to the flexible foam. The other one I was looking at was this since it is low expansion and designed for gluing:

    https://www.toolstation.com/soudal-soudabond-easy-adhesive-foam-gun-grade/p37023

    I was thinking to seal the gaps in the void between floors with plasterboard since I think that is a bit breathable and I am worried how any moisture in that cavity might escape. I will then fill the void with some breathable insulation before replacing the plasterboard ceiling. For the reveals above the window which at the moment just have plasterboard, I was thinking to glue PIR backed plasterboard to the existing boards. Here I want to minimise any moisture passing from inside the room, so PIR might be better here.

    I actually renovated the room above a while ago, but didn't think about this area. I put 40 mm IWI against the block wall above before plasterboarding.

    Later I might try and do a drawing to explain better what I mean.
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