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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTime1 day ago
     
    Posted By: WillInAberdeenhttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/landline-phones/future-of-landline-calls

    Seems to depend on how your present ISP sees their future business shaping up.
    Thanks for the link but that seems to be talking just about the move to VOIP instead of PSTN. It doesn't seem to address whether FTTP is compulsory or not at all?
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    "Your VoIP service will be provided over a broadband connection
    If you already have a broadband connection, for example to connect to the Internet, then the VoIP service will use this."



    FTTP is a completely separate (hardware) change from VoIP (software). VOIP is happening this year, but probably going to be another ten years before UK is ready to turn off FTTC.

    Your ISP might want to push you towards full fibre now (£££) but you can change ISP.

    Full fibre is better than FTTC of course, and will come in sooner or later, so you might want to get it all sorted at once
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTime16 hours ago
     
    Posted By: WillInAberdeenFTTP is a completely separate (hardware) change from VoIP (software). VOIP is happening this year, but probably going to be another ten years before UK is ready to turn off FTTC.
    Thanks, yes, I do know that. Do you have a link that explains what is happening with the hardware change and what my options are? Specific rather than general waffle.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime16 hours ago
     
    I think the thread has all the information but, in summary;

    FTTP is a new fibre cable to the House. Often this is free.
    FTTC uses the existing Copper to a cabinet.

    In either case, the 'landline' phone will have to connect to the Router for VOIP as the old direct copper phone (PSTN) is being switched off.

    If you have a working duct for the existing copper connection, they should be able to use that for the fibre. As stated elsewhere, it does depend on the engineer who comes to do it.
    Posted By: djhSpecific rather than general waffle.

    What specifically do you need?

    I had FTTP fitted last year - no cost upgrade for BT. I got rid of the 'landline' as all I ever got was spam.

    I did have to have an overhead line. I ran it round the loft eaves to where I wanted it terminated and the engineer did the connection.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTime15 hours ago edited
     
    Posted By: borpin
    Posted By: djhSpecific rather than general waffle.

    What specifically do you need?
    I need a link to an authoritative statement that says they can use my existing duct, so I have grounds to object to a suggestion by the engineer that they can't use it. And I need a link to an authoritative statement that says I can continue to use my existing FTTC connection next year. Pretty please.
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTime14 hours ago
     
    You'd need to have a deep trawl around Openreach documentation to find the engineers guidance on cable entry. Way easier to request FTTP, wait for the survey then cancel the order if you can't reach agreement with the engineer.

    On FTTC decommissioning timescales, if they exist, youll do well to find a reliable statement. I think original timescales for decommissioning copper to the exchange have been and gone yet the lady next door to us has a copper landline and no one has even spoken to her about removing it and moving to fibre/VOIP. FTTC is so widespread it's unlikely to get superceded for a long time
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    Has anyone seen an authoritative statement that they can't just keep using FTTC next year? Specific rather than general waffle?


    Actually would have to be very specific, to their address, as no way any company could make that happen for large numbers of subscribers.
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTime10 hours ago
     
    Not seen any statements on continuity of FTTC but what makes you think FTTC has a 'use by' date? The copper to the exchange phone lines seem to be planned for decommissioning early next year but I've not seen anything on ending of FTTC. I think there's a drive to migrate people to FTTP when they request it but I've not seen anything about imminent end to FTTC.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTime7 hours ago
     
    What makes me think FTTC has a use-by date is a letter I received from my ISP - Zen. But on looking at it again I think it may be ambiguously worded. It says "... copper ... broadband ... stop working" but they may be stretching the truth a lot. I'll ask them a direct question, since they are still selling SOGEA circuits. It could be they're trying to screw me for more money.
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