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    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2026
     
    Has anyone else seen these? Seem to be a US firm, but to my mind a great system for warm roofs and EWI.
    No fixing through the insulation.

    https://www.insofast.com/products/insofast-batt-brackets
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2026
     
    Thanks, interesting product. Their shipping container insulation looks good too.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2026
     
    Another type of these fixings. Folk may know I am a fan of Icynene and paired with these wall fixings I suggest makes a great IWI insulation method.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/uwwhOGhgJDs
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    Declaring an interest: we're Build4less, a building materials supplier, so take this as general experience rather than a pitch.

    Interesting brackets. Carrying the battens on a bracket instead of driving long screws through the insulation makes a lot of sense, and anything that cuts down on point thermal bridges and crushed insulation at the fixings is welcome.

    One word of caution on pairing them with sprayed foam for IWI over here. UK lenders and surveyors have become very wary of spray foam, and plenty of sellers have had buyers' mortgages declined or delayed because of it, even where it was installed properly. RICS and the Property Care Association have both put out guidance, and many lenders now want a specific inspection report before they will lend. On a solid masonry wall there is also the moisture side: foam bonded to the wall makes it hard to inspect the masonry later and, depending on the type, can change how the wall dries.

    If I liked the bracket idea for IWI, I'd be more inclined to pair it with a vapour open board such as wood fibre on a solid wall, or PIR with a properly taped VCL on a wall that is known to be dry, so the build up is easier to justify when the house is eventually sold.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime4 days ago
     
    Posted By: build4lessOne word of caution on pairing them with sprayed foam for IWI over here.
    Agreed. There is much ignorance of the different types of Spray Foam (closed or Open cell are both available). The biggest advantage Spray Foam has is it's air sealing properties.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTime4 days ago edited
     
    In that (air sealing), and other things as well, Icynene has v similar properties to blown-in Warmcel - with obvious exceptions/eco credentials. Blown-in Warmcel is equally supreme at air sealing/gap filling, beating any kind of slab or roll insulation, significantly improving real-life insulation value to actually match its face value.

    BTW, the brackets in the OP are called Insofast, not Isofast!
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime4 days ago edited
     
    I've seen so much on Warmcel slumping though.
    Posted By: fostertomBTW, the brackets in the OP are called Insofast, not Isofast!
    :shamed:
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTime4 days ago edited
     
    That's easy to prevent - just weave galv light garden wire criss-crossed in/out of the studs/sloping rafters @ 400c/cs, secured by occasional clout nails - gives the Warmcel something to grip strongly onto
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime4 days ago
     
    True, but extra cost & effort to be accounted for.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTime4 days ago
     
    Yes as always, but are you referring to the garden wire, or the brackets?
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    Declaring an interest again: we're Build4less, a building materials supplier.

    Fair point borpin, it does tend to get lumped together as one product. Open cell is soft and fairly vapour open, while closed cell is much denser and behaves more like a vapour control layer, so on a solid wall they act quite differently. The air sealing really is the big win, especially on an old wall full of gaps and awkward junctions where boards struggle.

    The problem over here is mostly perception rather than physics, because lenders and surveyors rarely distinguish between the types. Where people want the air tightness without the mortgage headache, the usual route is a parge coat on the masonry first, then boards or blown fibre, with every junction taped. It's slower, but it gets a good chunk of the same benefit and is far easier for a surveyor to sign off later.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime9 hours ago edited
     
    Posted By: build4lessThe problem over here is mostly perception rather than physics, because lenders and surveyors rarely distinguish between the types.
    Yes, agreed. Although once in the walls and not visible, no surveyor will ever find it! Under sloping roofs is a completely different kettle of fish.
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    Declaring an interest: we're Build4less, a building materials supplier.

    Ha, true enough once a wall is boarded and skimmed, although it's still something you'd be expected to disclose when selling, so it's worth keeping the installer's paperwork somewhere safe either way.

    You're right that roofs are where it bites. A surveyor can see it straight away from the loft hatch, and the worry with foam stuck to the underside of the felt or tiles is that nobody can check the rafters for rot or leaks any more. With older non breathable felt, any moisture that does get in has nowhere to go either. That's really the case most lenders are reacting to.

    Under a sloping roof I'd still lean towards PIR or wood fibre between and under the rafters, a ventilated gap or a breathable membrane above, and a taped VCL on the warm side. Not as quick, but much easier to inspect and repair later.
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTime8 hours ago
     
    Posted By: build4lessalthough it's still something you'd be expected to disclose
    "I have no idea what the stucture is".. Equally, last time I sold a house I'd built, the surveyor ignored everything I said!
    Posted By: build4lesswith foam stuck to the underside of the felt or tiles is that nobody can check the rafters for rot or leaks any more.
    And yet they don't worry about the same problems in walls.
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