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Renewable Energy: Any news on RHI?

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    • CommentAuthorRobinB
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2011
     
    Hi
    I just spoke to EST and the Renewable Heat Premium Payment which have just been launched only apply to installations made from today onwards. There's no point contacting them about installations that have already been made. Renewable Heat Premium Payment covers solar thermal for all homes meeting minimum criteria and heat pumps for homes off the gas grid.

    Regarding RHI they say "People who have installed the kit under the Premium Payments will also be eligible for support through the RHI providing they meet the eligibility criteria of the full RHI scheme, as will anybody else who has installed eligible equipment since 15 July 2009." RHI is still "we don't know when".

    RobinB
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    Posted By: RobinBI just spoke to EST and the Renewable Heat Premium Payment which have just been launched only apply to installations made from today onwards.


    The Getting a minimum of three quotes from MCS certified installers on the following:

    http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/Generate-your-own-energy/Renewable-Heat-Premium-Payment-Form

    tends to confirm that fully or partly completed installations won't be eligible.
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    But the GSHP voucher is only valid for 6 months. I am confused. So do you cash it in before completion or after? If after then partly completed systems must be eligible? Did it not mention 2009? I will read it again,
    Gusty.
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    I think I read somewhere that the cut-off date is 29 July 2011(?). Only installations started after that date will be eligible to apply for a voucher. I think the Treasury would prefer if you didn't attempt to cash in these vouchers!

    Other eligibility criteria may also apply. Maybe your postcode will have to have a '7' in it? Who knows?
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    7? Thats madness surely. 5 sound good to me!
    Gusty.:cry:
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2011
     
    You cash in the vouchers by sending them in to the EST with a copy of your final paid invoice.
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    So surely this must be for systems that are partly or fully installed then. If not you would have 6 months to build your house and install the system? Not a problem for retrofit installations though. 12 million will go a little way I guess,
    Gusty.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2011
     
    I'm still waiting (24 hours and counting) for EST to ring me back about applicability to new build or if RHPP is only to encourage the replacement of existing oil or lpg heating systems. I imagine their helpline is struggling with the number of calls.
    • CommentAuthorSlowmo45
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2011
     
    Ted

    New build will be eligible if the application is submitted by the householder and not the housebuilder; EST can only make payments to individuals, not companies.

    For a new build homeowner to be eligible, they would need copies of the documentation (commissioning certs, quotations etc) that would normally be held by the housebuilder so some collaboration will be necessary.

    In an earlier post, I suggested that any commissioning was delayed until after Aug 1; the actual date turned out to be July 21, the date of the RHPP announcement.

    I feel for those who commissioned between the end of May and July 21; they have lost out on the RHPP duly entirely to Government failing (again) to meet its own published schedule for delivering the RHPP policy.

    Of course, without any certainty on the eligibility rules for the full RHI, or the available tariffs (although they will be significantly lower than those published in the Feb 2010 consultation, now considered 'ancient history' by DECC) it is hard to see how the RH PP will incentivise anybody; instead, it will merely reward those who were installing the technology anyway. Everybody else will wait to see how the RHI/Green Deal fits together.

    Clearly, DECC is far more concerned about upsetting the Treasury than the renewable heat industry. It will be interesting to see whether they can get all 15m allocated under the RHPP: I suspect not.
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      CommentAuthorDamonHD
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2011
     
    +1
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    • CommentAuthorRobinB
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2011
     
    I'm sorry I couldn't see any news there - am I missing something?
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    Robin- Prior to this anouncement I was not aware the RHI expenditure will protect 150,000 existing manufactuing, supply and installer jobs. Was not aware it will increase green capital investment by £7.5 billion.
    Obviously from your comment you were aware so can you explain please where the jobs are and how the £billions will be spent , my concern is how will it benefit health and environment? What will be impact on imports?
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    At last, I have confirmation that if I jump through all the hoops I will get my RHPP voucher. It took longer than 10 working days though. £1250-00 for my GSHP. It all helps I guess but I would have installed the technology anyway,
    Gusty.
    • CommentAuthorRobinB
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2011
     
    Brian,

    I was looking only from a rather selfish viewpoint, hoping for news on the long-delayed RHI payments for those like me who have installed heat pumps and solar thermal and had been told to expect payments to start last April.

    I am definitely not qualified to comment on "where the jobs are" nor "how to spend billions".

    RobinB
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    RobinB, I assume then you are one of the unfortunate many that missed out on the RHPP payment as you installed early? I do not understand the logic as the RHPP is meant to be an interim payment before the RHI kicks in.:confused:
    • CommentAuthorRobinB
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2011 edited
     
    Yes, you assume right! Though to be honest the promise of RHI wasn't the deciding factor.

    Apologies to those, like me, who click hoping there is actually some useful news everytime this thread is updated!
    • CommentAuthorfinny
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2011
     
    What like me?:tongue:
    • CommentAuthorjanzon
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2011
     
    I have had it in writing from Ofgem that I qualify for the commercial phase of RHI. Can't decide whether to go for it or wait and see if the domestic phase has less hoops to jump through.
    • CommentAuthormrsherbie
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2011
     
    This is a very helpful thread so thankyou everyone. I came to post a question, but in reading have made a simple decision.
    I find that our new build currently in progress qualifies for the £300 'voucher' for solar thermal which I am just getting quotes on right now.
    However it is a teeny tiny % of the cost of our installation and I want to know how 'BIG' and what the extra meters will look like first as I dont want the possibility of some unnecessary junk bolted to my brand new house inside or out for the benefit of a measly £300, which is probably negated anyway at the moment by the negotiable quotes offered from solar providers right now which is only going to get more competitive over the next year.
    I think we will give it a miss purely on this unknown monitoring issue.
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    Just seen the following:
    http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/meeting_energy/renewable_ener/incentive/incentive.aspx
    RHI update – 7 October 2011 - non-domestic RHI launch postponed.
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    Just seen http://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/renewable_heat_incentive_phase_2_rollout_will_be_delayed_5478/" >Renewable Heat Incentive: Phase 2 rollout will be delayed

    Anyone heard more about this? In particular, The duration RHI tariffs will be paid is also yet to be finalised although it seems that a 10 or even five-year policy is likely?
    • CommentAuthorJeff B
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2012
     
    In July it will be 3 years on from the eligibility date of July 2009! Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the domestic version of the RHI scrapped altogether.

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