Posted By: Joiner"I bet a Model-T Ford breaks down a lot less than a Ferrari and when you crash you're only doing 25mph not 125mph."

I bet it don't if done of failures per miles travelled.

Is the problem disposal of turbine blades just a matter of disposing of them, rather than storing. The process needs to be established.
The British Nuclear industry is very safe, as it the British Windturbine Industry, they are both very small scale as well, so very hard to really get mortality figures for them.
There then comes the problem of who do you count in the figures. If a van driver is delivering to the factory that makes components to either industry and gets killed, are they counted?
And then do you compare the two industries or do you compare to the general population that includes a percentage of workers from both industries, or do you exclude both the industries.
Workplace fatalities are very hard to compare.

Nick, that was windy's sentence you credited me with.

Mine was just the Touché bit.

Posted By: DamonHDDeaths from all causes in the UK nuclear industry, in the time up to the Sizewell B public inquiry anyway, were lower than the general population IIRC, including things such as car accidents. Possibly simple because nuke workers are more careful in all their actions than average.

And I should think that the same would apply to wind turbines and other engineering disciplines requiring great care day by day.

Rgds

Damon

far more likely to be a result of the average salary in the nuclear industry being a little over double the national average.

£63,000 vs £24-30,000 according to the sources below




http://www.reed.co.uk/average-salary/energy/nuclear
http://career-advice.monster.co.uk/salary-benefits/pay-salary-advice/uk-average-salary-graphs/article.aspx

Posted By: Joinerthere's less bullshit in engineering than banking.

'Ask 100 engineers a question and you get 100 correct answers'

100 is not enough, 1001 maybe

I started my career working for the UK Atomic Energy AUthority, and strongly suspect that the mortality statistics just reflect the intensive health screening that nuclear industry workers undergo. They will be giving weekly urine samples, have monthly health checks, probably have regular blood tests etc, if the regime at the place where I worked for a couple of years is anything to go by. Any health problem is therefore likely to be picked up quickly, leading to earlier treatment and a probable better outcome.

Note that road deaths per capita, even as pedestrians, was lower for UK nuclear workers than average, IIRC.

Rgds

Damon

Joiner - not if those nuclear workers are driving Ferraris!

You and your Ferraris. Only chap I saw in one was so overweight that the pretty ladies looking into see who the eligible chap was, visibly recoiled in horror.

Let's put the fast reactors *in* Ferraris and kill several birds with one gamma ray, as it were...

Rgds

Damon

I worked for him, indirectly.

Rgds

Damon

Bloody difficult to drive in wellies, too, I'd imagine.

Posted By: windy lambI was never very fond of Ferraris - only the sought that you hitch a plough to

I believe you're thinking of Lamborghinis rather than Ferraris.

djh- surprisingly enough both Ferrari and Lamborghini made tractors and, Joiner, I've not had the opportunity to test the welly theory.

Ted - the judges guidance will be interesting.

Here's a copy of the actual judgement - http://www.dpea.scotland.gov.uk/Documents/qJ12843/A2178007.pdf

(That previous note was written by William Norris QC - who lost the case.)

I believe that case hinged on the fact that references to ETSU aren't as strong in Wales as in England. eg In England it's a case of ETSU is THE way to assess the impact where as in Wales it's only recommended good practice.

That allowed the inspector to rule that a second wind farm in the particular area in question would mean people were subject to noise for a greater range of wind directions and that this would be unacceptable. That despite noise levels being predicted to be below ETSU.