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    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    I had a visit from the Conservation Officer as part of a planning application consultation. I'm considering renovating a property built on the mid 1700s and he's suggested we need a detailed history of the building as he's aware that its been a number of things in its life, including a large farm house, law court, a coaching inn and lately a pub.

    Has anyone come across similar requests and is it likley to be a requirment of the planning application? If I had to do a report is it difficult to get the information?
    • CommentAuthorborpin
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    Make it up and see if they check? Ask local historic societies. Councils often have a library of old records for local history but it could take quite a while.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    try not to pay anyone to do it for you.
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      CommentAuthorSpike
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    The purpose is to ensure that whatever you plan do to the building doesn't result in the loss of elements of what makes the building special (i.e. worthy of listing). If you don't know the history, you can't necessarily say what's special - which is why you are being asked to do this. Personally, I think it's a mistake to expect property owners to do this kind of research because there is the potential for conflict of interest and devising a 'history' which suits the planning application. But there you go. The relevant planning guidance is in this document:

    http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/1514132.pdf

    Policy HE6.1 requires applicants to "describe the significance of the heritage asset" and I don't see how you can do this without knowing the history.
    • CommentAuthorseascape
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    This is why you need time! To find out the history of a building I was interested in, I went to the county library/archives (now Historic Environment Service). For no charge I looked at amazing maps of the area, dating from about 1640 onwards - fascinating stuff. Staff were very helpful at the time and recommended other research documents. I would have thought key dates, with a brief explanation and source of info would suffice. It may help the planning permission to have documented that it had been a farmhouse before or a domestic dwelling?
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    If he's down as a consultee then there's a reason for it, that being that the building is either Listed or in a Conservation Area. If it's Listed he should know the history and be telling you!

    YOU don't need a detailed history of the building unless he blocks what you want to do, when he'll tell you why he's opposing your plans. YOU only need a detailed history if you think he's wrong and need the evidence to prove it.

    E.g. Old building, owners wanted to replace existing s/g casements (ex-Magnet 1970's type) with d/g casements in a "traditional" pattern and replace a large d/g 'picture' window with two sliding sashes. CO opposed, claiming it would detract from historic character of 18th century building. Oiginally built as a warehouse, the previous owner had knocked out to make the window openings, totally in a couple of places, partially in others (bricking up and re-making the opening - taller or wider, as the case might be). Found the documentaty evidence in the form a letter of congratulation from the council to the previous owner on having done a good job of reclaiming an old building in danger of partial demolition.

    Mind you, there's a lot of satisfaction in discovering the history of an old building - IF you've got the time to do it. Which gives a clue as to why the CO is making it seem as if it's your job.

    Like I said, make your proposals and challenge his opposition. If he's a clown he'll fall back on the old stand-by "likely to detract from the historic character of the building", giving the impression that he doesn't HAVE to explain himself to you Trouble is, that's when people back down instead of insisting on a rationale.

    If you do feel pushed, ask to see the original citation for the Listing. If you're in a Conservation Area, then you're going to have to make a case.

    Incidentally, English Heritage tend to be a lot more laid back about energy efficiency measures than individual COs. :wink:
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    I've had some arguments over that document, Spike!

    It's actually not as onerous as it appears because it does say that the "case" for the historic character of the building can be part of the D&A statement, which is usually in narrative form and essentially an outline rather a detailed history and designed to show that the applicant is aware of the historic character of the building and intent on doing nothing to affect that, in fact it's an opportunity for an applicant to impress upon the planning authority that they (in this case Triassic) are the best people to do that. Detailed it does not have to be.

    The fundamental requirement in terms of your proposed work is an outline of what's still there to indicate its previous functions, it's that which constitutes its "history" in conservation terms - an outline biography.
    • CommentAuthorJanitor
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2012
     
    Knowing our Local Authority as I do, I'd say Joiner is bang on with his assertions here

    Of course, finding out some of the history will likely be a very rewarding exercise for you too :smile:
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