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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Joiner</author>
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			<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.tecg.co.uk/domestic/solar-heating/solar-heating-panels.aspx" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.tecg.co.uk/domestic/solar-heating/solar-heating-panels.aspx</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>pmusgrove</author>
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			<![CDATA[Can't see what is special about this offer.  Best thing is to determine what you want and then get three quotes for the supply, fit and commissioning.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>martint</author>
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			<![CDATA[To qualify for the current govt grant, don't you have to be off the gas grid? And I suspect that the RHI t&c may also include this restriction - so 'not every owner of a qualifying system' may get the RHI (perhaps their qualifier is in the 'qualifying' - which I first took to mean MCS)]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[Joiner , DIY it , cheaper all round ,<br /><br />forget potential doubtful future solar thermal grant and the higher install cost that have to come with registered installers.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[Solar thermal Â£300 payment was/is regardless of gas grid, IIRC.<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Joiner</author>
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			<![CDATA[It came in one of the regular junk-mail drops, so the whole lane has had them. A neighbour walking his dog asked for my opinion because "you know a thing or two about this sort of thing, don't you?"<br /><br />'No, but I know a lot of people who do and I'll ask them.'<br /><br />The rest is history.<br /><br />Spending time on here tends to make you overly suspicious. <img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title=":wink:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>kathymartinmead</author>
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			<![CDATA[I have just been quoted for a solar panel array by a local company but I am very unsure whether the information is valid  - it seems too good to me.  I have a 1950s semi with two roofs one facing SSE and a hip roof facing WSW, six panels on each.  Both roofs seem to be at an optimal angle. The company say they can instal a chinese panel 3kW system that will give us a total annual return of Â£821.49, which is even bigger than my original calculation.  Any thoughts?  You see, I'm already suspicious and I've just started!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Nick Parsons</author>
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			<![CDATA[Even diluting my usual pessimism a bit, and assuming say an average of 800kWh/kWp p.a. over the 2 orientations, at 21p/3.1p I can't get better than Â£721.20, including assuming that your 50% used at home is displacing elec @ 15p.Does this help? <br /><br />Nick]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>kathymartinmead</author>
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			<![CDATA[Thank you very much Nick, this does help]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>wookey</author>
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			<![CDATA[Check what PVGIS has to say about how much power it will generate. You will have to do the two aspects separately. IME it's accurate and slightly conservative.]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Davipon</author>
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			<![CDATA[Not really supposed to use 50% export now. 25% so we keep being told!<img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/confused.gif" alt=":confused:" title=":confused:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[davipon , who that from MCS ?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>SteamyTea</author>
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			<![CDATA[Just has a look at the link that Joiner posted up.<br />So they are offering a ST system.<br />Now what is the question?<br />Can it deliver up to 70% of your DHW energy needs.  Depends how you measure it I think.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:29:40 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>moulesnfrites</author>
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			<![CDATA[Perhaps you could type  " Simplee Solar" or  "Simplee Solar complaints" into your  search engine. <br /><br />Company fined Â£40K by trading standards in Bournemouth, also part of a watchdog programme. <br /><br />Was rebranded as Staywarm and now rebranded as Energy Conservation Group.   Same address near Ringwood. <br /><br />They work nationally with fleets of commission driven sales-liars,  very expensive and will probably rebrand again in near future to dump all liabilities. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1604776/Solar-panel-firm-fined-pound40000.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1604776/Solar-panel-firm-fined-pound40000.html</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/green-issues/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/green-issues/</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.blagger.com/db4/company_id/9997/companyname/Stay-Warm-Energy.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.blagger.com/db4/company_id/9997/companyname/Stay-Warm-Energy.html</a><br /><br />reasearch is everything ...]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:33:46 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Joiner</author>
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			<![CDATA[That's one hell of a downside! <img src="/newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title=":wink:" />]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:41:51 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Sprocket</author>
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			<![CDATA[Nicely done Moules!<br />&lt;round of applause&gt;]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 11:01:46 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>moulesnfrites</author>
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			<![CDATA[Downside just got worse ...........<br /><br />The Energy Conservation Group made mass redundancies on Friday 3rd August  and IMO will start up with a new company name and shed another load of warranties and other responsibilities by dumping this one.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 11:12:51 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[Can someone go after the directors personally (eg start proceedings against them as unfit, or trading while knowingly insolvent) to make it hard for them to hide behind the corporate veil in future?<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:03:42 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2183252/Solar-Energy-Savings-Limited-shut-mis-selling-false-discounts.html?ITO=1490" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2183252/Solar-Energy-Savings-Limited-shut-mis-selling-false-discounts.html?ITO=1490</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:16:39 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>CWatters</author>
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			<![CDATA[<a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/david-sanderson/7/772/615" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/david-sanderson/7/772/615</a>]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:34:09 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>moulesnfrites</author>
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			<![CDATA[Phoenix warning : <br /><br />Their new name is REDS tech. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.redstech.com/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.redstech.com/</a>]]>
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