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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:22:56 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:33:10 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ok im in Essex so not a million miles away.<br /><br />Keep us updated on how you get on.<br /><br />thanks]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:38:02 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[Well, FWIW, I'll be doing the write-up here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.earth.org.uk/triple-glazing-3G.html" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.earth.org.uk/triple-glazing-3G.html</a><br /><br />but for now it's mainly links back to this thread!<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:09:58 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Sorry, but the idea of getting a glazed look from a window fitter amuses me, somewhat.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:15:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>gooday</author>
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			<![CDATA[Can anyone recommend a 3G UPVC suppier in the Essex area that supply the Rehau frames, the guy that I know has asked his supplier and they have basically laughed at him and told him all sorts why not to use them. <br /><br />Hinges wont take the weight, beads dont fit, 3 times the price of 'A' rated etc.<br /><br />I have been on the Rehau website for there 'preferred suppliers' in my area but none are being particularly helpful!<br /><br />thanks]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:53:54 +0100</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[I remember it being surprisingly difficult to get 3G UPVC too!<br /><br />We used eurocell eurologik (7 chambered construction) which is used to get 2G up to A rated or with a narrower bead can take 3G.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:28:01 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>jamesingram</author>
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			<![CDATA[gooday, various midlands manifacturers have weekly delivery runs in the SE and are good value ,<br />I'd imagine most SE guys would also run similar delivers all over.]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:02:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>RobinB</author>
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			<![CDATA[Rehau windows also used in the "UK's first passivhaus care home" see News article on this website.]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:43:08 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[I got my quote: about Â£400/m^2 incl VAT and install.<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:06:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>Monty Gerhardy</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: gooday</cite>Can anyone recommend a 3G UPVC suppier in the Essex area that supply the Rehau frames, the guy that I know has asked his supplier and they have basically laughed at him and told him all sorts why not to use them.<br /><br />Hinges wont take the weight, beads dont fit, 3 times the price of 'A' rated etc.<br /><br />I have been on the Rehau website for there 'preferred suppliers' in my area but none are being particularly helpful!<br /><br />thanks</blockquote><br /><br />U-values in windows are only part of the equation. How many of suppliers have tested windows with triple-glazing ? 50% increase in sash weight is going to put a lot of extra strain on ironmongery and the fixings. I'd recommend asking what size sashes have they tested to BS6375-2 with triple-glazing. Same question for BS7950 (for enhanced security) if they are claiming secured by design.<br /><br />Monty]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:59:52 +0100</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[OK, I've stayed with the dark side, and expect to hand over a deposit in half an hour or so.<br /><br />But I'm fairly optimistic that this will work well and resolve a number of issues at once.<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon<br /><br />PS. Still need to work out where to put extra MHRV to keep RH under control in winter amongst other things, and complete our IWI fun.  May even sneak a little more loft insulation in for giggles.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2020 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>DamonHD</author>
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			<![CDATA[Just an update for amusement / interest: we've had a series of unit failures over the last 8 years, with the outer pane shattering spontaneously on a chilly (though not usually very cold) night in each case:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.earth.org.uk/triple-glazing-3G.html#Failures" target="_self" rel="nofollow">http://www.earth.org.uk/triple-glazing-3G.html#Failures</a><br /><br />Warmlite has been very good about fixing the issues under warranty, quickly and professionally.<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: DamonHD</cite>Warmlite has been very good about fixing the issues under warranty</blockquote><br />OTOH you seem to have had quite a few failures with their products. FWIW we have had no failures with our glazing in five years. Well except for a toughened glass door that succumbed to a stone thrown up by the lawnmower.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[We were some of the first off a new production line, I think.  Other than a little excitement no harm has been done.<br /><br />And we still have a couple of years left on the warranty!<br /><br />Rgds<br /><br />Damon]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>wookey</author>
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			<![CDATA[Damon - have you worked out why your units are exploding?  That's not normal. Are they jammed against the frames and expanding until they crack? Were they gassed-up to too high a pressure and explode on sunny days? Something else? Do you have an unusual frequency of fat birds?<br /><br />Has anyone else had whiteline products since 2012 and had a more typical experience. I've never heard of units spontaneously shattering other than your 6(!), only of bird-strikes doing similar damage.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>djh</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: wookey</cite>Do you have an unusual frequency of fat birds?</blockquote>We have a fair number of bird strikes (mostly pigeons I think with the odd blackbird) but haven't had any break as yet.]]>
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