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Heating and cooling: MCS approved technology purchase and the RHI.

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    Hi,
    From what I have read on this very informative site I will qualify for the RHI if I purchase MCS approved solar panels and an MCS heat pump and my friendly MCS approved plumber installs them for me. However, I was told this morning by a large supplier that the equipment must be purchased through the MCS accredited engineer and should not be purchased directly by myself or I would qualify? Is this supplier pulling my chain or are they correct?
    I know I need 2 quotes etc from MCS accredited engineers to qualify but I was under the impression that as long as the items I purchased were MCS approved then I would qualify?
    I so wish the powers that be would set in stone the RHI and how it will work.
    Many thanks all,
    Gusty.
    • CommentAuthorpmusgrove
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Don't take the RHI as a foregone conclusion. This will have to be paid for out of taxation through the Treasury rather than the indirect taxation through the electicity supply companies that the FITs work from; the consequence is that in my view it will be put back a bit or even kicked into the long grass.
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    pmusgrove- I was under the impression that the electricity companies would fund the RHI?
    • CommentAuthorGavin_A
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    If your MCS installer is happy to fit it and you can prove that it is new, not second hand eg via a receipt, then there should be no problem.

    I would query the wisdom of doing it this way though as the MCS certified bod if he's VAT registered will be able to both get trade prices, and reclaim 12.5% of the VAT on the entire install, so I'm not really convinced you're going to save any money this way. The other problem is that your MCS installer should really be involved in the specification process, particularly with heat pumps - the MCS stuff is about more than just the fitting of the kit, so if you don't spec it right, and MCS installer would be well within their rights to refuse to install it.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Not to mention the warranty if there is a problem. Manufacturers normally use installers to provide warranty support.
    • CommentAuthordazdread
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2010
     
    I was at an Energy Savings trust briefing on Feed in tariffs the other day and their view was that for the RHI the long grass option would be selected.
    • CommentAuthorGavin_A
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2010
     
    oh. Are they doing refunds then?
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    Thanks for the advice all. In all honesty I will probably go for the GSHP regardless of the RHI but I will use an MCS accredited installer incase it ever comes in. My only option for heating is bulk tank LPG, oil or HP's. The air source is cheaper to install but I do not like the idea of the COP dropping off when you need it most and I also have a fairly large house so would possibly need 2 units or the Grant 15kW. This unit is fairly loud though in my opinion.
    Oil, well enough said. LPG is fairly expensive and you are tied to the tank owner to supply your gas. I feel I will go with the GSHP and solar thermal. I looked at pellet and log burners but my budget would not take the hit and the pellet store was too large. So I hope we have some lovely summer days to help me with my free hot water in the future!!!!! I do feel however to encourage renewables the government must do something. My bore holes will cost me £5000-00 before I start. Maybe Tony has got it right but do not tell him I said that!
    Gusty.:shamed:
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    Gusty / all
    In similar position with GSHP. Looked at all other options and all have flaws. Think GSHP way forward but looking at £7K boreholes and c. £10K for the pump - a big ask if the RHI is knocked into long grass. Garden only 200 sq m so not big enough (I think for other heat transfer system?) If anyone can help - please do..... Other green option seems to be biomeass pellet boiler, but with silo / hopper almost same price.

    Need to heat 190sq m of house (four bed) which old stone cottage. Major refurb, Insulating floors (some additonal insulation over concrete and some newly laid) and new roof up to normal building regs. Will have 50% new suspended floor so will fit UFH using screed mix and timber boards over. Not sure whether to go for rads of retro fit UFH in existing joists etc? ... any advice?? Will it work with old timber floor boards?

    Question is... would a good oil system with good insulation and a solar thermal panel to pre-heat water, be morecost effective - espically if the RHI may fail? £4K compared with £17K, and electricity supply maybe a problem in the future so the eco press says - might other greener oil products may become available?

    RR

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